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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CountPopeula" data-source="post: 4408174" data-attributes="member: 27250">Yeah, this is just it. I don't think 4e is going to have an role-playing intensive products. In fact, there was only really ever one role-play heavy D&D campaign, in my eyes, Birthright, and it was a massive failure.I mean, I've run D&D campaigns that turned into dinner theater before. Great fun. But the fact that it can be done doesn't mean that role-playing isn't being over-shadowed by tactical miniature gaming. I mean, it may not happen at the table, but it COULDN'T happen at the table. People are going to play the game they want to play no matter what the system is. But the system can definitely overshadow one aspect of the game for the other.I think people miss that when they say they can still role-play perfectly well with the new rules or any rules. It can be done, but it's not really built to be done.</blockquote>