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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 6925386" data-attributes="member: 6716779">For those of you with EN5ider do you allow the EN5ider classes in your games and are any of them actually any good? For a long time there was only 1- the Noble. The heart path one looked alright if you wanted a lazy lord type PC, the other 2 looked a bit meh.  Then we got the Alchemist (outright terrible makes the Beastmaster look great), the Occultist (looks bad as well), The Feywalker (which looked decent would need to be tested), The Morph (also looks bad), and there is also the Cardcaster which I have not looked at that much. I probably missed one as the Cardcaster is apparently the 7th new class on EN5ider. The classes also seem to be getting very very niche.  The archetypes of the existing classes for the most part in EN5ider have been great and in some cases fix a few things wrong with the PHB classes with things like the Tempest Ranger or Elemental Druids. Not all of them have been great but even the worst ones still seem better than the Alchemist. I do not have much in the way of other 3pp stuff to compare with except the Gunslinger and Witchhunter of the DMGuild.</blockquote>