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Do the Epic rules nerf multiclassed combat types?
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<blockquote data-quote="Quartz" data-source="post: 3549714" data-attributes="member: 40552"><p>Once you go Epic, your AB increases regularly, no matter your class. But spellcasters still get +1 level of spellcating ability per level. This bites when it comes to prestige classes and feats. A combat-oriented Epic prestige class will typically have an entry requirement of BAB +21 or whatever whereas spellcasting feats will have 'can cast 9th level spells' as a prerequisite.</p><p></p><p>Consider a Ftr 5 / Wiz 5 / EK10. BAB +17, 7th level spells. To hit the magic BAB +21 requires waiting to 27th level - regardless of the classes chosen - but 9th level spells will come at 23rd level if progressing as a wizard. </p><p></p><p>To take a more practical example, consider a Pal 4 / Kt 4 / Mk 2 / Divine Crusader 10. The obvious Prestige Class is Divine Emissary. But that requires a BAB of +23 and the character has a BAB of +16. Under the current rules the character can't enter the class until 34th level! There's no way to make this up.</p><p></p><p>Plus, of course, spellcasters get 9th level spells well before fighters get BAB +21.</p><p></p><p>A simple solution would be to reduce or waive the BAB requirements through roleplay, but I'm wondering about balance issues (q.v. Legendary Dreadnaught).</p><p></p><p>Or we could allow the Epic Prowess feat to be taken as a Fighter feat to increase the EAB.</p><p></p><p>Or we could allow an Inherent Bonus, but how would that apply at non-epic levels?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quartz, post: 3549714, member: 40552"] Once you go Epic, your AB increases regularly, no matter your class. But spellcasters still get +1 level of spellcating ability per level. This bites when it comes to prestige classes and feats. A combat-oriented Epic prestige class will typically have an entry requirement of BAB +21 or whatever whereas spellcasting feats will have 'can cast 9th level spells' as a prerequisite. Consider a Ftr 5 / Wiz 5 / EK10. BAB +17, 7th level spells. To hit the magic BAB +21 requires waiting to 27th level - regardless of the classes chosen - but 9th level spells will come at 23rd level if progressing as a wizard. To take a more practical example, consider a Pal 4 / Kt 4 / Mk 2 / Divine Crusader 10. The obvious Prestige Class is Divine Emissary. But that requires a BAB of +23 and the character has a BAB of +16. Under the current rules the character can't enter the class until 34th level! There's no way to make this up. Plus, of course, spellcasters get 9th level spells well before fighters get BAB +21. A simple solution would be to reduce or waive the BAB requirements through roleplay, but I'm wondering about balance issues (q.v. Legendary Dreadnaught). Or we could allow the Epic Prowess feat to be taken as a Fighter feat to increase the EAB. Or we could allow an Inherent Bonus, but how would that apply at non-epic levels? [/QUOTE]
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