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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2196849" data-attributes="member: 2011">Yes, you can ready an action to attack him if he moves. You cannot ready an action to &quot;include the passive action of becoming un-flat-footed&quot;. That is a game mechanic concept, not a game action concept. The DMG specifies that you should be specific and &quot;becoming un-flat-footed&quot; is not a specific game action.In fact, he becomes &quot;un-flat-footed&quot; on his initiative on round one automatically. It is not his choice (since it is a game mechanic), it just happens. So, your solution here is invalid.And, what if the opponents ready actions to attack the surprising characters if they move?Who wins the readied action when somebody finally moves?That's the problem of having a boatload of &quot;readied actions in surprise rounds&quot;. The opponents can ready actions in round one and then it is again the chicken and egg mess. The initiative rules are just not set up to handle certain fairly common game events.As per the original poster's question, the initiative rules basically assume combat is starting, not that parlaying is about to happen (or that prepared characters have any more of a chance of winning initiative than un-prepared characters in round one).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2196849, member: 2011"] Yes, you can ready an action to attack him if he moves. You cannot ready an action to "include the passive action of becoming un-flat-footed". That is a game mechanic concept, not a game action concept. The DMG specifies that you should be specific and "becoming un-flat-footed" is not a specific game action. In fact, he becomes "un-flat-footed" on his initiative on round one automatically. It is not his choice (since it is a game mechanic), it just happens. So, your solution here is invalid. And, what if the opponents ready actions to attack the surprising characters if they move? Who wins the readied action when somebody finally moves? That's the problem of having a boatload of "readied actions in surprise rounds". The opponents can ready actions in round one and then it is again the chicken and egg mess. The initiative rules are just not set up to handle certain fairly common game events. As per the original poster's question, the initiative rules basically assume combat is starting, not that parlaying is about to happen (or that prepared characters have any more of a chance of winning initiative than un-prepared characters in round one). [/QUOTE]

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