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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2203986" data-attributes="member: 2011">Total nonsense.&quot;Flat-Footed: At the start of a battle, before you have had a chance to act (specifically, before your first regular turn in the initiative order), you are flat-footed.&quot;Not only do they call out that you are only flat-footed before you have had a chance to act, but they explicitly spell out exactly what they mean by that: before your first regular turn in the initiative order. Period, exclamation, no exceptions.They purposely went out of their way to explain what they meant by that.The instant that you get to your regular turn in the initiative order, it is no longer before your first regular turn in the initiative order. It is now your turn.DUH!!!Your action is irrelevant. The ready action of your opponent is irrelevant. The instant it becomes your turn, you are no longer flat-footed. BEFORE you do any actions.You want to ignore the rules and claim they are something they are not or that the writers did not mean what they wrote nor what they clarified as well, fine. Do it on the house rules forum.Again, total nonsense.They spelled out what they mean and then they turned around and explicitly went out of their way to clarify it.You can pretend that they do not apply to all situations, but they do. The moment your first turn comes up, you are no longer flat-footed. That is the rule. And, that is the rule for ALL conceivable situations.A degree of common sense goes a long way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2203986, member: 2011"] Total nonsense. "Flat-Footed: At the start of a battle, before you have had a chance to act ([b]specifically, before your first regular turn in the initiative order[/b]), you are flat-footed." Not only do they call out that you are only flat-footed before you have had a chance to act, but they explicitly spell out exactly what they mean by that: before your first regular turn in the initiative order. Period, exclamation, no exceptions. They purposely went out of their way to explain what they meant by that. The instant that you get to your regular turn in the initiative order, it is no longer before your first regular turn in the initiative order. It is now your turn. DUH!!! Your action is irrelevant. The ready action of your opponent is irrelevant. The instant it becomes your turn, you are no longer flat-footed. BEFORE you do any actions. You want to ignore the rules and claim they are something they are not or that the writers did not mean what they wrote nor what they clarified as well, fine. Do it on the house rules forum. Again, total nonsense. They spelled out what they mean and then they turned around and explicitly went out of their way to clarify it. You can pretend that they do not apply to all situations, but they do. The moment your first turn comes up, you are no longer flat-footed. That is the rule. And, that is the rule for ALL conceivable situations. A degree of common sense goes a long way. [/QUOTE]

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