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Do the races in 4e remind you of Dragonlance?
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<blockquote data-quote="Irda Ranger" data-source="post: 3920100" data-attributes="member: 1003"><p>Thanks for the tip; I'll check to see if my FLGS or Barnes & Noble has some I can thumb through. No promises though (see below).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Heh. I make a point of distinguishing rules and flavor/setting info. My longest running PC ever (three years, levels 1-15) was an Irda Ranger (natch) using AD&D 2E rules. But rules don't matter too much for me. I also took a stab at making a 'low fantasy' Dragonlance using the Grim Tales rules, and could probably play an Age of Despair campaign using the Iron Heroes rules (assuming a workable Arcanist variant to support the magic-users). Rules don't really matter to me as long as they don't get in the way of telling the story or presenting the world.</p><p></p><p>The problem I've had with recent DL sourcebooks and novles is what they've done to the setting. To sum it up: "Too Many Cataclysms." Too much change. The Fifth Age novels/setting materials are just not what the world I liked from the "golden era" of novels (IMO), started by Weis & Hickman of course, but with many other honorable mentions too (Kaz the Minotaur, Legend of Huma and the Elven Nations Trilogy are still staples in my library). Just look at the avatar I picked for myself! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Basically, any setting book set during or after the War of Chaos has been useless to me, as I prefer to pretend it just never happened. (I've written my own timeline which branches off from the official timeline after Dragonlance Legends but before Dragons of Summer Flame.) I know a lot of people feel this way, which is why the 3E DLCS went to such great lengths to present "multiple Eras". In a sense, DL is stuck trying to support 2-3 entirely different campaign settings, a situation I'm not sure is tenable from a business point of view.</p><p></p><p>No one asked me, but if I were writing the introduction to the 4E DLCS I'd start with Tasslehoff waking up out of deep sleep (sometime around when Second Generations was written) screaming. He calms himself down and says "Wow! What a terrible nightmare! That was almost as scary as those trees in Palanthus."</p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Irda Ranger, post: 3920100, member: 1003"] Thanks for the tip; I'll check to see if my FLGS or Barnes & Noble has some I can thumb through. No promises though (see below). Heh. I make a point of distinguishing rules and flavor/setting info. My longest running PC ever (three years, levels 1-15) was an Irda Ranger (natch) using AD&D 2E rules. But rules don't matter too much for me. I also took a stab at making a 'low fantasy' Dragonlance using the Grim Tales rules, and could probably play an Age of Despair campaign using the Iron Heroes rules (assuming a workable Arcanist variant to support the magic-users). Rules don't really matter to me as long as they don't get in the way of telling the story or presenting the world. The problem I've had with recent DL sourcebooks and novles is what they've done to the setting. To sum it up: "Too Many Cataclysms." Too much change. The Fifth Age novels/setting materials are just not what the world I liked from the "golden era" of novels (IMO), started by Weis & Hickman of course, but with many other honorable mentions too (Kaz the Minotaur, Legend of Huma and the Elven Nations Trilogy are still staples in my library). Just look at the avatar I picked for myself! :) Basically, any setting book set during or after the War of Chaos has been useless to me, as I prefer to pretend it just never happened. (I've written my own timeline which branches off from the official timeline after Dragonlance Legends but before Dragons of Summer Flame.) I know a lot of people feel this way, which is why the 3E DLCS went to such great lengths to present "multiple Eras". In a sense, DL is stuck trying to support 2-3 entirely different campaign settings, a situation I'm not sure is tenable from a business point of view. No one asked me, but if I were writing the introduction to the 4E DLCS I'd start with Tasslehoff waking up out of deep sleep (sometime around when Second Generations was written) screaming. He calms himself down and says "Wow! What a terrible nightmare! That was almost as scary as those trees in Palanthus." :D [/QUOTE]
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