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Message: <blockquote data-quote="cptg1481" data-source="post: 809369" data-attributes="member: 5360">Question for the GroupHere is an actual in game issue that happened to a character of mine.  His name was Zonk, he was a 1/2 Orc ranger, who because of a wretched childhood and other things was NE.  (Please reserve the anti-evil campaign/player judgement please)  He was a slave, brutalized and treated like an animal for some 15 years.  he unlike most fantasy characters when faced with his freedom chose instead of a rosey life of righting wrongs and freeing the oppressed a different path.  He decided that no one would ever get the best of him again.  Further he would have anything he desired, regardless of the cost.  He would use his strength (20) to this end.  I played him as selfish and violent, capable of manipulating others through force or coersion to to get what he wanted. (As a side note...for those who think evil = phsycotic he did have a sense of loyalty to his adventure group and while he surely would not die for them he honestly enjoyed thier company and appreciated that he could have much more of what he wanted by continuing his relationship with them. ) Anyway, in the course of his adventure career in particular facing a group of vampires.  One group had placed a gueas (sp), or compulsion on the low willed, party barbarian to remove a rival gang of undead.  In a spectacular confrontation (well played and machinated by the DM) the group, being both clearly out classed and out gunned was going to have to assist thier barbarian in this cause, it was either this or death.  At a pivitol point the female vampire leader offered eternal life and awsome power (read - become a vampire) to my guy along with the others.....what do you think a guy who wanted be powerful enough to outclass most of the world do?  This along with that there was the "what better way to swing the balance of power to our side" argument.  He felt that his decision to accept was the best possible way to tip the odds in the favor of the party.  Soooooo......he did it.  He drank some potion (the mechanics of which are not important) and bam he's back the next night a vampire.....To make a long story short...this was the brekdown of this particular game.  The DM desided after that that he didn't want an evil game.  Ergo, me being a vampire was out.  I decided not to game with that DM after that.   However, that is not the point, its a done deal, I'm not looking for support or critisism of my choicecor view.  My question was this....since my guy was NE anyway, and made the choise to "undie" willingly what were the implications for his soul?  Could I still play the guy...did he have the volition to be a viable character.  (understanding that he was beholden to the particular vampress of course) I mean was he a suped up version of himself minus a hearbeat?  Just wondering what the thoughts are.  In my game I'd say fine to someone whe "became" undead under this or any other process that made them a "higher" or intelligent undead.  I this particular case the guy would have been elated with his newfound power.  Any thoughts on the disposition of his 1) memories/skills, 2) soul, 3) emotions, 4) hopes, and finally his dreams and goals?  Thanks in advance.....</blockquote>

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