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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Buttercup" data-source="post: 2020532" data-attributes="member: 990">This doesn't sound like a game I'd enjoy.  Nor does this.   Good for you, but please don't suggest that players who aren't interested in serial character death are in some way inferior.  I can't speak for everyone.  But if, back when I was a new player, some DM had decided to kill my characters one after the other, "for my own good,"  I wouldn't be here on EN World today.  I would have decided the hobby wasn't for me, and also that the DM who tried this tactic was a complete and utter jerk.  If it happened to me now, I'd tell the DM in question to get bent, and find myself another game.  The idea that players need to be toughened up is spurious at best.  Maybe *you* like playing in a "meat-grinder" but why do others have to?</blockquote>