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<blockquote data-quote="Ulrick" data-source="post: 6060866" data-attributes="member: 775"><p>I agree. We are speaking in generalities.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And that is what's happening with the OSR. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yet there is also a contingent that wanted rules light, and that's been there since the beginning. To name once example: the folks who played D&D, but when AD&D came along they just used the D&D combat system. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So are you saying that WotC really isn't about unifying the gamer "culture"? They couldn't care less as long as they buy 5e in whatever version(s) they publish it in?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm using "d20" to connote the use of the d20 in D&D, not necessarily the "d20 System." </p><p></p><p>As for White Wolf, I did talk about my experiences with <a href="http://d20darkages.blogspot.com/2012/12/in-retrospect-vampire-masquerade.html" target="_blank">Vampire and LARPing on my blog last week.</a></p><p></p><p>So what you said fits into the d20 Dark Ages timeline (1989 to the present).</p><p></p><p>The timeline itself is my own argument. I chose 1989 because that's when 2e was published. Others, like Grognardia, have different timelines, and he sidesteps what happened afterward. <a href="http://grognardia.blogspot.com/2009/01/ages-of-d.html" target="_blank">http://grognardia.blogspot.com/2009/01/ages-of-d.html</a></p><p></p><p>I do, however, after looking over this thread, need to work on my definitions. I need to define (if broadly) what I mean by "d20", "gamer sub-culture," etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ulrick, post: 6060866, member: 775"] I agree. We are speaking in generalities. And that is what's happening with the OSR. Yet there is also a contingent that wanted rules light, and that's been there since the beginning. To name once example: the folks who played D&D, but when AD&D came along they just used the D&D combat system. So are you saying that WotC really isn't about unifying the gamer "culture"? They couldn't care less as long as they buy 5e in whatever version(s) they publish it in? I'm using "d20" to connote the use of the d20 in D&D, not necessarily the "d20 System." As for White Wolf, I did talk about my experiences with [URL="http://d20darkages.blogspot.com/2012/12/in-retrospect-vampire-masquerade.html"]Vampire and LARPing on my blog last week.[/URL] So what you said fits into the d20 Dark Ages timeline (1989 to the present). The timeline itself is my own argument. I chose 1989 because that's when 2e was published. Others, like Grognardia, have different timelines, and he sidesteps what happened afterward. [URL="http://grognardia.blogspot.com/2009/01/ages-of-d.html"]http://grognardia.blogspot.com/2009/01/ages-of-d.html[/URL] I do, however, after looking over this thread, need to work on my definitions. I need to define (if broadly) what I mean by "d20", "gamer sub-culture," etc. [/QUOTE]
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