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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 6061383" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite12" alt="o_O" title="Er... what? o_O" loading="lazy" data-shortname="o_O" /></p><p></p><p>This would be the period where TSR was run by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorraine_Williams" target="_blank">Lorraine Williams</a> who openly disdained gamers? The period when they bought Gygax's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangerous_Journeys" target="_blank">Dangerous Journeys</a> and shelved it permanently to take out the competition? The period in which it was commonly known as T$R with buisness practices that would make WotC blush? The period when TSR was working on a Buck Rogers RPG specifically because she owned the license? A period in which TSR released over 600 books in 9 years extruding products like the <a href="http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?626446-Let-s-Read-The-Complete-Book-of-Elves" target="_blank">Complete Book of Elves</a> and attempting to monetise that ... failed because <a href="http://insaneangel.com/insaneangel/RPG/Dancey.html" target="_blank">TSR neither knew nor cared what the players wanted to play.</a> There was some very good stuff buried amongst all the crap but that's because there were many minds at work - and everyone has a few good ideas. If you want a time of creativity that puts that period of D&D to shame, look at the early days of <em>3E</em> - when the OGL was allowing literally everyone to publish their own take on D&D.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 6061383, member: 87792"] O_o This would be the period where TSR was run by [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorraine_Williams"]Lorraine Williams[/URL] who openly disdained gamers? The period when they bought Gygax's [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangerous_Journeys"]Dangerous Journeys[/URL] and shelved it permanently to take out the competition? The period in which it was commonly known as T$R with buisness practices that would make WotC blush? The period when TSR was working on a Buck Rogers RPG specifically because she owned the license? A period in which TSR released over 600 books in 9 years extruding products like the [URL="http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?626446-Let-s-Read-The-Complete-Book-of-Elves"]Complete Book of Elves[/URL] and attempting to monetise that ... failed because [URL="http://insaneangel.com/insaneangel/RPG/Dancey.html"]TSR neither knew nor cared what the players wanted to play.[/URL] There was some very good stuff buried amongst all the crap but that's because there were many minds at work - and everyone has a few good ideas. If you want a time of creativity that puts that period of D&D to shame, look at the early days of [I]3E[/I] - when the OGL was allowing literally everyone to publish their own take on D&D. [/QUOTE]
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