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Do We Need A Bard Class?
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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfaun" data-source="post: 4065325" data-attributes="member: 55366"><p>For me it all comes down to the different concepts that have been attached to the word "Bard" over the years before I can answer. </p><p></p><p>Do I want a retread/update of the 3.5 bard, with half-assed combat, half-assed spellcasting, and a boring-to-play musical buff system? No, pass. </p><p></p><p>Do I want a new version of the Darksun bard, which is to say, poisoner/spy/griefing jerkwad bait? Hell of no. But I'm biased. </p><p></p><p>Do I want an Arcane Leader class that combines the coolest parts of the Beguiler and the Truespeaker with all-new shiny 4e mechanics to make a class that is a full spellcaster with a unique mechanical flavor, equipped with powers to pwn the new social encounters, trick and befuddle enemies, and protect and buff allies? A class that will NOT walk into combat strumming a lute and expect to survive? Yeah, I'm interested in that. And may I suggest that WOTC call that class a bard instead of getting it wrong in the PHB and releasing several other classes to eclipse their imperfect first draft? </p><p></p><p>I do understand that it's difficult to pin down the bard archetype in a combat-focussed game. It's a conundrum. Singing and playing a lute while everyone else is fighting is full of lose, though. </p><p></p><p>All things considered, though, I'm still more eager to see the Druid.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfaun, post: 4065325, member: 55366"] For me it all comes down to the different concepts that have been attached to the word "Bard" over the years before I can answer. Do I want a retread/update of the 3.5 bard, with half-assed combat, half-assed spellcasting, and a boring-to-play musical buff system? No, pass. Do I want a new version of the Darksun bard, which is to say, poisoner/spy/griefing jerkwad bait? Hell of no. But I'm biased. Do I want an Arcane Leader class that combines the coolest parts of the Beguiler and the Truespeaker with all-new shiny 4e mechanics to make a class that is a full spellcaster with a unique mechanical flavor, equipped with powers to pwn the new social encounters, trick and befuddle enemies, and protect and buff allies? A class that will NOT walk into combat strumming a lute and expect to survive? Yeah, I'm interested in that. And may I suggest that WOTC call that class a bard instead of getting it wrong in the PHB and releasing several other classes to eclipse their imperfect first draft? I do understand that it's difficult to pin down the bard archetype in a combat-focussed game. It's a conundrum. Singing and playing a lute while everyone else is fighting is full of lose, though. All things considered, though, I'm still more eager to see the Druid. [/QUOTE]
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