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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 9237537" data-attributes="member: 7635">The significant difference is that the OSR movement was mostly focused on reviving older editions* of the game that were mostly forgotten come the 2000's. They were trying to revive interest in something that's time in the spotlight has passed. The modern 5e movement is mostly built around providing alternatives to supporting WotC. It's built around drawing the audience away from the current edition to their own fantasy heartbreaker. In some ways, I liken it to what's happening with Twitter. A lot of people are not happy with Twitter's current direction, so a lot of companies offered up their own alternative to Twitter (Threads, Bluesky, Mastadon, and others I won't dignify by naming). And none of them have managed to rival Twitter's dominance, despite how bad the company behaves. Put mildly, people don't want to be starting somewhere new again without a dang good reason and apparently odious ownership isn't sufficient. I think it further proves how much Pathfinder was catching lightning in a bottle. It was the right product at the right time by a company people trusted implicitly, and those factors don't come along every day. I don't believe TotV or Level Up, or MCDM or any other 5e-adjacent system is going to find itself repeating Paizo's miracle. * some older editions. I must admit I haven't kept up with the OSR movement after 5e's release, but I recall at the time mention AD&D 2nd edition in OSR circles was the equivalent of ripping a loud fart in public. The OSR movement was fixated on 1e and B/X clones and everything else was politely ignored.</blockquote>

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