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<blockquote data-quote="wlmartin" data-source="post: 5672577" data-attributes="member: 6679380"><p>That is a little inaccurate</p><p>There are SOME non-leader classes that have healing but saying "almost all" suggests a large majority when even when you count leaders is limited.</p><p></p><p>Leaders = Healing</p><p>Non Leaders... Divine Classes = Some Healing</p><p>Other Classes = No Healing</p><p></p><p>So a better statement would be</p><p></p><p>Almost (if not all) Leaders have healing</p><p>Almost (if not all) Divine characters have some healing but less than Leaders</p><p>No other classes have healing (that I know of)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It is all down to perspective.</p><p>From the perspective a player fighting round by round, a Leader with Damage seems to win the day... however that same Leader with damage reduction, healing, buffs and debuffs can often do better (purely down to the fact that buffs aid more people that attacking one monster does)</p><p></p><p>I would imagine that if you put a group of 5 PCs including one leader against a group of random beasties, that leader focused on buffing... then each time a monster gets hit you record that damage amount, each time a player gets hit you record that damage amount, you then record how long the battle takes.</p><p></p><p>Now do the same with a leader focused on battle.</p><p></p><p>I will show my arse in burtons window if the result doesnt come down to</p><p></p><p>: Time it takes to defeat the monsters, Less with Support Leader</p><p>: Amount of hits the PCs take, Less with Support Leader</p><p>: Amount of damage the PCs take (which is a sum of the total damage they took - the amount of healing they were given), Less with Support Leader</p><p>: Amount of hits against the monsters, More with Support Leader</p><p>: Amount of damage against the monsters, More with Support Leader</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wlmartin, post: 5672577, member: 6679380"] That is a little inaccurate There are SOME non-leader classes that have healing but saying "almost all" suggests a large majority when even when you count leaders is limited. Leaders = Healing Non Leaders... Divine Classes = Some Healing Other Classes = No Healing So a better statement would be Almost (if not all) Leaders have healing Almost (if not all) Divine characters have some healing but less than Leaders No other classes have healing (that I know of) It is all down to perspective. From the perspective a player fighting round by round, a Leader with Damage seems to win the day... however that same Leader with damage reduction, healing, buffs and debuffs can often do better (purely down to the fact that buffs aid more people that attacking one monster does) I would imagine that if you put a group of 5 PCs including one leader against a group of random beasties, that leader focused on buffing... then each time a monster gets hit you record that damage amount, each time a player gets hit you record that damage amount, you then record how long the battle takes. Now do the same with a leader focused on battle. I will show my arse in burtons window if the result doesnt come down to : Time it takes to defeat the monsters, Less with Support Leader : Amount of hits the PCs take, Less with Support Leader : Amount of damage the PCs take (which is a sum of the total damage they took - the amount of healing they were given), Less with Support Leader : Amount of hits against the monsters, More with Support Leader : Amount of damage against the monsters, More with Support Leader [/QUOTE]
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