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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 5496166" data-attributes="member: 15538">That doesn't make GURPS poor at balance; that is a reflection of the fact that D&D 4e doesn't do the Justice League at all. When dealing with very powerful characters with widely varying abilities, there is only so much a system can do to filter bona fide differences in ability. Superman can lift an airplane, Batman can't. Batman is the world's greatest detective; Aquaman, less so. Considering that M&M virtually gives up on balancing such characters, GURPS is definitely in the top tier of such games. M&M simply leaves many abilities arbitrarily priced and often cheap (like long-range communication or lifting humongous objects) while squishing all combat capabilities into a playable range (in which Batman can hurt Superman with a punch on a good roll). GURPS, Hero System, and DC Heroes (the Mayfair MEGS version) are the gold standard for that sort of balance. Something like D&D doesn't even come close; it's not even equipped to put a horse in the race. D&D 3e gave us Savage Species and its ample demonstration of how varying character strength did not work well within that framework; D&D 4e provides an even more constrained experience than M&M.Four Colors to Fantasy is an interesting beast; it essentially turns d20 into something very close to BESM d20 or GURPS. And it works pretty well. Mind you, the classless d20 concept described in the first post is also outside such concerns, unless you go level-less as well. In a leveled system, using menu choices, you can calculate the options available to a character of any given level.</blockquote>

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