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<blockquote data-quote="Stormonu" data-source="post: 9594351" data-attributes="member: 52734">Back in the 80s, the goal was to get to 20th, 30th or as high a level as you could possibly get players.&nbsp; It had been drilled into me you had to get to these levels as a rite of passage and prove your salt as a DM.&nbsp; If you didn't have games that regularly went to 20th level and beyond, you were a poor DM - that sort of thing.&nbsp; The designers didn't seem to share that sentiment - there's barely any 10th+ official adventures and other than the semi-joke Throne of Bloodstone, I can't recall any pre-3E adventures that went as high as 20th level.After my first campaign got into the 15th-18th range however, I decided that was not the game I wanted to play.&nbsp; After the last few campaigns I've done, I'm happy to cut off as soon after 9th level as I can.&nbsp; Getting a hold of Old School Essentials and its 15th level cutoff further reinforced that I'm more than happy to cut off well before 20th level.Sometimes it even irks me that D&amp;D is so huge that it takes up 3 books for the &quot;base&quot; game.&nbsp; The D&amp;D Rules Encycylopedia showed it was possible to put a more than complete D&amp;D game in a single book, and I'd love a &quot;5E D&amp;D lite&quot; treatment of an all-in-one book that cut off no later than 15th level.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stormonu, post: 9594351, member: 52734"] Back in the 80s, the goal was to get to 20th, 30th or as high a level as you could possibly get players. It had been drilled into me you [I]had[/I] to get to these levels as a rite of passage and prove your salt as a DM. If you didn't have games that regularly went to 20th level and beyond, you were a poor DM - that sort of thing. The designers didn't seem to share that sentiment - there's barely any 10th+ official adventures and other than the semi-joke [I]Throne of Bloodstone[/I], I can't recall any pre-3E adventures that went as high as 20th level. After my first campaign got into the 15th-18th range however, I decided that was not the game I wanted to play. After the last few campaigns I've done, I'm happy to cut off as soon after 9th level as I can. Getting a hold of Old School Essentials and its 15th level cutoff further reinforced that I'm more than happy to cut off well before 20th level. Sometimes it even irks me that D&D is so huge that it takes up 3 books for the "base" game. The D&D Rules Encycylopedia showed it was possible to put a more than complete D&D game in a single book, and I'd love a "5E D&D lite" treatment of an all-in-one book that cut off no later than 15th level. [/QUOTE]

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