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<blockquote data-quote="Mad Mac" data-source="post: 1972736" data-attributes="member: 27873">*Takes a second look at Ember* Yeah, she's Japanese...&nbsp;A heroic effort in missing the point! Pat yourself on the back. But tell me, what &quot;exclusively european&quot; weapons would be appropriate to add to the monks list of simple tools? Blades and metal bashing instruments aren't foreign to asia, but the monk doesn't use them either. Want to suggest a few? Something that doesn't involve sucking up to a diety, arcane might, or hugging trees? Europe was monotheistic. Everything was either &quot;divine&quot;, or &quot;witchcraft&quot;. D&amp;D is polytheistic, making non-exclusive mysticism more appropriate. If you want to talk out of place by D&amp;D assumptions, look at the Crusader Cleric and Shining Paladin.Not familiar with the class, gotcha. (Pssst, the iconic Kensai is a blond Knight)Cuz it works. And they didn't expect people like you to get their knickers in a twist over a simple japanese word. And honestly, &quot;Chi&quot; would be more appropriate anyway, if they were going for the Shaolin thing. A lot of people say &quot;Ki&quot; is psionic. It works. We also have Prc's that allow the Monk to specialize in weilding Arcane, Divine, or Psionic power.&nbsp;Those darn, crafty, asians. Always sneaking into campaign settings where they don't exist and training monks. Or, and this is just a crazy theory I'm throwing out here, its assumed the highly-magical, polytheistic, non-historical D&amp;D cultures produce monks who train in martial arts, who aren't asian. Just a thought.&nbsp;You're absolutely right. Intellect Devourers and rust monsters feature prominently in myth. Mythical Druids lived in Medievel times with Rennasaince technology and destroy mythical Norse frost giants with classical greek elementals, and are closely associated with mythical rangers, who specialize in two-weapon fighting or archery, and fight alongside Pure hearted Catholic Paladins in shining armor as they smite Catholic Crusader Clerics who serve polytheistic gods, while Sorcerers cruise around on a magical floating disk and hurl magic missles at Nordic Skalds who prance around with a rapier and lute fighting an Ogre Magic from Japanese mythology who is being grappled by a Mesoamerican god.But Man! Just try and throw in a character vaugely based on Chinese Mythology, and my versimilitude is Gone!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mad Mac, post: 1972736, member: 27873"] *Takes a second look at Ember* Yeah, she's Japanese... A heroic effort in missing the point! Pat yourself on the back. But tell me, what "exclusively european" weapons would be appropriate to add to the monks list of simple tools? Blades and metal bashing instruments aren't foreign to asia, but the monk doesn't use them either. Want to suggest a few? Something that doesn't involve sucking up to a diety, arcane might, or hugging trees? Europe was monotheistic. Everything was either "divine", or "witchcraft". D&D is polytheistic, making non-exclusive mysticism more appropriate. If you want to talk out of place by D&D assumptions, look at the Crusader Cleric and Shining Paladin. Not familiar with the class, gotcha. (Pssst, the iconic Kensai is a blond Knight) Cuz it works. And they didn't expect people like you to get their knickers in a twist over a simple japanese word. And honestly, "Chi" would be more appropriate anyway, if they were going for the Shaolin thing. A lot of people say "Ki" is psionic. It works. We also have Prc's that allow the Monk to specialize in weilding Arcane, Divine, or Psionic power. Those darn, crafty, asians. Always sneaking into campaign settings where they don't exist and training monks. [B]Or[/B], and this is just a crazy theory I'm throwing out here, its assumed the highly-magical, polytheistic, non-historical D&D cultures produce monks who train in martial arts, who aren't asian. Just a thought. You're absolutely right. Intellect Devourers and rust monsters feature prominently in myth. Mythical Druids lived in Medievel times with Rennasaince technology and destroy mythical Norse frost giants with classical greek elementals, and are closely associated with mythical rangers, who specialize in two-weapon fighting or archery, and fight alongside Pure hearted Catholic Paladins in shining armor as they smite Catholic Crusader Clerics who serve polytheistic gods, while Sorcerers cruise around on a magical floating disk and hurl magic missles at Nordic Skalds who prance around with a rapier and lute fighting an Ogre Magic from Japanese mythology who is being grappled by a Mesoamerican god. But Man! Just [I]try[/I] and throw in a character vaugely based on Chinese Mythology, and my versimilitude is [B]Gone![/B] [/QUOTE]

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