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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Anax" data-source="post: 1973117" data-attributes="member: 19868">Dear God. You really don't know anything about Greyhawk, do you?  I mean--monks aren't wandering around all over the place, but that's primary because they're *gasp* members of monastic orders.  Specifically, followers of Zuoken, descended from the ancient Baklunish, and members of the Scarlet Brotherhood, who are Suel racists and one of the major major big evils in the world.  (And, incidentally, their teachings are probably descended from the Baklunish monks, since a number of monks were subverted by the Suel at one point, bringing their knowledge of martial arts and psionics with them.)If anything, the only thing that doesn't fit right about core D&D 3.5 monks in Greyhawk is that they're *not* a psionic class.  But, given that psionics aren't in the core rules, I think that the alternative (the martial arts features in addition to the specific mystical class features) is a very good implementation.  If I wanted to do better, I'd probably try to put together a class combining the martial arts excellence of the Monk class with some of the features of the Psychic Warrior class.  (And the only problem there, of course, is that you don't have to be *both* a martial artist and a user of psionic powers to follow the path of Zuoken.  In short, Zuoken's followers focus on mastery of the body slightly over mastery of the mind, and Xan Yae's followers focus on mastery of the mind slightly over mastery of the body.  But both groups, I would say, value the mastery of the self very very highly.  The evil Scarlet Brotherhood, on the other hand, values mastery of the self as necessary to dominating others, and approaching a sort of ubermensch ideal.)Anyway--if you're not familiar with a campaign setting, don't spout off as if you are.  Claiming that monks don't fit in Greyhawk because of your bizarre preconceived notions of a setting that you clearly haven't spent much time studying isn't going to get you points with anybody.</blockquote>

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