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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wikid Klown" data-source="post: 1973161" data-attributes="member: 22077">"BECASE ASIA HAS JAPAN AND JAPAN HAS NINJAS, NOT WUSSY NITES THAT HAV OT WEAR ARMER!11!! NINJAS HAVE REAL ULTIMATE POWER, AND THAT"S WHY D&D HAS TEH MONK!!"As put by Maddman75Call me a nit picker if you will, but my step mother is from China and I'm taking Japanese (so I know a little about the culture). Japan doesn't have ninja's, they have the samurai (who do wear armor). China has the Ninjas (who wear very light or no armor). The ninja was more of the rogue-ish type, or an assasin, were as the samurai had a deeper code about fighting with honor. The monk's are really not associated with them as far as I can tell, not in DnD anyway. Especially since there's a Ninja PRC in 3.0 and a Ninja core class in the more recent Complete Adventurer. I've also seen many things about "kickin people's butts". LAWFUL! They don't look for fights, they only fight when one comes to them. Not sure if any of this has already been brought up since I didn't read all 10 pages.I don't think the monk is really needed. Really all that's needed is a wizard and a fighter and a lot more feats to customize those two more (magic and brute force). Feats that would make them more like a rogue or cleric, or whatever else is desired. The monk is there for people like me, who like the martial arts, the cool moves and weapons, and who can see what it's actually like. The people who like the variants, the not so run of the mill classes. That and it's there so there aren't a lot of feats printed that would be there just to make one class seem more like another. Needed, nah, just nice to have around incase somebody wants to use it, including the DM for a sick vampiric monk...bad memories. I don't really see the monk as a purely fighting class, it has taken into account some of the more spiritual things, though not many. I think it'd be a lot better if they did with the monk what they did with the ranger (only more magical and more physical instead of ranged or melee). But if that happened, you'd basically be playing an unarmored cleric with a very high speed. That's about it, hope I've helped some and offended the least I could, I'm gone.</blockquote>

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