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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 5255131" data-attributes="member: 80487">Hussar, when you quote right there in your own post what he actually wrote, why do you insist that he "claimed" something else?Perhaps the answer is that you choose to make it what you make it.Before you all start telling each other what the other fellow "is saying", why not ask him what he is saying?I would give some benefit of the doubt to the fact that "how many people today are playing 3e and 4e" is very clearly a different thing than "how many were playing 1e in 1982." It seems a bit of a leap to conflate those when they are not even in proximity.Rather than rush to make that leap, one might ask RC whether he means by "keep the audience" that the numbers in 2010 are on par with the numbers in 1982.I see plenty of reasons to think they are not -- but no reason to ask for how it is arguable that they are, if nobody is in the first place claiming that's a reasonable possibility.However, when I consider the responses of some players of my acquaintance to their trip to this year's DundraCon, it hardly encourages me to make the investment. When I consider what I see at the FLGS, I find nothing to recommend making that trip.There is a fraction of overlap with  3e/4e in my AD&D group, but the majority are rarely if ever to be found in such venues. I may be the only one of 8 who frequents online RPG forums at all, and among those I frequent, the ones to do with old games outnumber those to do with 3e/4e by at least 2:1.Even "back in the day", going to conventions and chatting on Compuserve were exceptional activities among D&Ders I knew. Even local meet-ups pretty clearly did not attract numbers anywhere near the numbers of rules sets sold at shops in town. Moreover, there were other games seeing play whose enthusiasts quite reasonably did not go out of their way to attend D&D-focused functions. It simply does not require any of that to referee old D&D (or other old RPGs). All it takes, once one has the rules-book, is paper, pencil and dice (or functional equivalents), imagination, time, and a friend (preferably at least two). To play as a player-character requires less. It is easy enough for someone to go along without even knowing that there are such things as "3e/4e". I didn't know there was such a thing as 3e until one day I had some time to kill and happened to notice a "comics and games" shop (and not much else of interest) nearby. No doubt I would have heard of it sooner if I had been going to online D&D sites, but I was not. If my fellow gamers were, they did not mention it.</blockquote>

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