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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 4717697" data-attributes="member: 59082">OK, it sounds like the general consensus, at least in this thread, is that wizards don't suck and all will become clear with a bit more playing time. I can trust and live with that. As for my second point about multiple attacks, why exactly is this not possible? Or rather, why is it that all characters can only attack once, except perhaps for special encounter or daily powers? This is what I mean by 4ed having a heavily &quot;gamist&quot; tone: rules seemed to cater more towards game balance than towards realism (simulationism). For example, it is not realistic that an 18 DEX rogue with two daggers in hand and an 8 DEX wizard with a staff can both attack once per round. At the least it would seem that there should be a feat or something for the rogue to be allowed to attack twice if the second weapon is light.Exactly--we thought we'd learn as we go, which is fine by me. We're learning! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> He told me he read that rule in an ancient Dragon magazine and that he thought the rule would apply in this edition--he hasn't played since 1st or 2nd edition--but we both found that it doesn't, but both are having a hard time putting our heads around the fact that high DEX rogues can't attack twice.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 4717697, member: 59082"] OK, it sounds like the general consensus, at least in this thread, is that wizards don't suck and all will become clear with a bit more playing time. I can trust and live with that. As for my second point about multiple attacks, why exactly is this not possible? Or rather, why is it that all characters can only attack once, except perhaps for special encounter or daily powers? This is what I mean by 4ed having a heavily "gamist" tone: rules seemed to cater more towards game balance than towards realism (simulationism). For example, it is not realistic that an 18 DEX rogue with two daggers in hand and an 8 DEX wizard with a staff can both attack once per round. At the least it would seem that there should be a feat or something for the rogue to be allowed to attack twice if the second weapon is light. Exactly--we thought we'd learn as we go, which is fine by me. We're learning! ;) He told me he read that rule in an ancient Dragon magazine and that he thought the rule would apply in this edition--he hasn't played since 1st or 2nd edition--but we both found that it doesn't, but both are having a hard time putting our heads around the fact that high DEX rogues can't attack twice. [/QUOTE]

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