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<blockquote data-quote="Goumindong" data-source="post: 4732643" data-attributes="member: 70874">1. Incorrect many things that are not &quot;terrain&quot; are difficult terrain.2. Define &quot;terrain&quot;. You're defining it as &quot;stuff the dm makes and only the dm makes&quot; and not defining it by its actual definition of &quot;the area&quot;Since the rules were put into the book for you to use. I mean, you're seriously asking since when did the rules apply in general with only specific instances of the rules over-riding them? I am not going to go over each and every power you look at to tell you whether or not it counts are not. Note: none of them have to. &quot;pit&quot; never mentions terrain either, is it suddenly &quot;not terrain&quot;I am reaching nowhereIs a wall of fire something that is in the area that you would have to nagivate through? Well then, you get a save.Read the section again. Hindering terrain does not have to allow LOS. It simply does not need to block it. None of the terrain types are mutually exclusive, a fog over difficult terrain or hindering terrain does not suddenly make it not difficult terrain.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Goumindong, post: 4732643, member: 70874"] 1. Incorrect many things that are not "terrain" are difficult terrain. 2. Define "terrain". You're defining it as "stuff the dm makes and only the dm makes" and not defining it by its actual definition of "the area" Since the rules were put into the book for you to use. I mean, you're seriously asking since when did the rules apply in general with only specific instances of the rules over-riding them? I am not going to go over each and every power you look at to tell you whether or not it counts are not. Note: none of them have to. "pit" never mentions terrain either, is it suddenly "not terrain" I am reaching nowhere Is a wall of fire something that is in the area that you would have to nagivate through? Well then, you get a save. Read the section again. Hindering terrain does not have to allow LOS. It simply does not need to block it. None of the terrain types are mutually exclusive, a fog over difficult terrain or hindering terrain does not suddenly make it not difficult terrain. [/QUOTE]

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