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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9127703" data-attributes="member: 7030563">This is absolutely not true and would mean you could not cast things like Blade Ward or Guidance or Toll the dead either.&nbsp; If this were true it would say replace the cantrip with an attack cantrip.There are no cantrips (and no spells for that matter) that use an attack &quot;IN the ATTACK ACTION&quot;.&nbsp; None!&nbsp; Not Green Flame Blade, not Eldritch Blast, not Firebolt.By allowing ANY Cantrip to use the attack action you are overiding the normal casting time.Further there are other things that are NOT attacks that you can use an attack &quot;IN the ATTACK ACTION&quot; action to do, specifically grapple and shove AND there are other subclass abilities that let you replace attacks with something else, specifically commanders strike battlemaster maneuver.Your argument would be like saying I can only replace an attack with a grapple check if grapple requires an attack roll, which it doesn't&nbsp; ...... so I can never replace an attack with a grapple check .... even though the rules say I can.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9127703, member: 7030563"] This is absolutely not true and would mean you could not cast things like Blade Ward or Guidance or Toll the dead either. If this were true it would say replace the cantrip with an attack cantrip. There are no cantrips (and no spells for that matter) that use an attack "IN the ATTACK ACTION". None! Not Green Flame Blade, not Eldritch Blast, not Firebolt. By allowing ANY Cantrip to use the attack action you are overiding the normal casting time. Further there are other things that are NOT attacks that you can use an attack "IN the ATTACK ACTION" action to do, specifically grapple and shove AND there are other subclass abilities that let you replace attacks with something else, specifically commanders strike battlemaster maneuver. Your argument would be like saying I can only replace an attack with a grapple check if grapple requires an attack roll, which it doesn't ...... so I can never replace an attack with a grapple check .... even though the rules say I can. [/QUOTE]

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