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<blockquote data-quote="shadow" data-source="post: 1679511" data-attributes="member: 2182">I never liked ressurection spells.&nbsp; They are way too tied to metagame concepts.&nbsp; From my experience, campaigns with a good amount of ressurection magic tend to lead to extreme metagame thinking.&nbsp; The worst example was when I heard of players resorting to suicide tactics because they could be raised later with little penaly. (The level loss is a small price to pay for taking out a major villian with ease in a suicide attack.)&nbsp; Of course this style of play is okay for some groups who aren't concerned with story, but I prefer a slightly more &quot;believable&quot; campaign world.&nbsp; In most stories and legends death is treated as a finality.&nbsp; Of course there are many examples of legends involving people trying to bring someone back to life (such as the legend of Orpheus) or trying to cheat death (such as Gilgamesh), but few legends portray such attempts as successful (Orpheus looks back on his wife, and she slips back into the underworld; in spite of his quest for eternal life, Gilgamesh eventually dies.)&nbsp; In most D&amp;D campaigns death is treated as a minor inconvenience at best.&nbsp; When a character dies, he or she can always get ressurected at the local cleric.&nbsp; In such a world there would be no question what lies on the other side of the veil.&nbsp; Kings and rulers, with the wealth and access to ressurection magic, would never stay dead leading to godlike tyrants ruling the land.&nbsp; The very world would be different; death would no longer be the a subject of religion, philosophy, and stories.&nbsp; It would be treated by many people the same way we treat the flu.&nbsp; &quot;Oh Bob's got killed again, we'll have to take him to the cleric again.&quot;&nbsp; I prefer to limit ressurection magic for sake of campaign verisimilitude.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="shadow, post: 1679511, member: 2182"] I never liked ressurection spells. They are way too tied to metagame concepts. From my experience, campaigns with a good amount of ressurection magic tend to lead to extreme metagame thinking. The worst example was when I heard of players resorting to suicide tactics because they could be raised later with little penaly. (The level loss is a small price to pay for taking out a major villian with ease in a suicide attack.) Of course this style of play is okay for some groups who aren't concerned with story, but I prefer a slightly more "believable" campaign world. In most stories and legends death is treated as a finality. Of course there are many examples of legends involving people trying to bring someone back to life (such as the legend of Orpheus) or trying to cheat death (such as Gilgamesh), but few legends portray such attempts as successful (Orpheus looks back on his wife, and she slips back into the underworld; in spite of his quest for eternal life, Gilgamesh eventually dies.) In most D&D campaigns death is treated as a minor inconvenience at best. When a character dies, he or she can always get ressurected at the local cleric. In such a world there would be no question what lies on the other side of the veil. Kings and rulers, with the wealth and access to ressurection magic, would never stay dead leading to godlike tyrants ruling the land. The very world would be different; death would no longer be the a subject of religion, philosophy, and stories. It would be treated by many people the same way we treat the flu. "Oh Bob's got killed again, we'll have to take him to the cleric again." I prefer to limit ressurection magic for sake of campaign verisimilitude. [/QUOTE]

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