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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rel" data-source="post: 2205815" data-attributes="member: 99">I think it depends a bit on the nature of the conversation.  I've seen people mention the fact that they are religious or come from religious backgrounds (often in the "My Parents/Friends/Parent's Friends/Friend's Parents think D&D is Evil" threads) without threads being locked.  It's because nobody is saying that their belief system is better, only that they have one and describing it in a general way.  And so, in that spirit, I'm going to step up to but not (I don't think) over the line and say this about that:I think that there are unquestionably "forces" within the scope of human experience that push us to do things that we would not or could not normally be capable of.  It does not matter whether we created them or they created us but they are "real".  I have seen too many acts of kindness, malice and the outright astounding done by those motivated by these forces to delude myself into thinking that they do not exist.Many people will say (and I don't entirely disagree with them) that such acts are all, by definition, part of the human potential already.  But if it takes some kind of additional faith to go beyond those boundaries then I see little point in contending that such motivators don't exist.I am glad to have the faith that I do in the beliefs that I hold because it allows me to do things, endure things and experience things that would not otherwise be possible.  That is real enough for me.</blockquote>

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