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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 6130075" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>I was obviously referring to design space in fact.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I find the metaplot and the turning around of the world at each edition change much more oppressive!</p><p></p><p>Because you don't have to use all the regional books if you don't want to: you can just set an adventure in e.g. Waterdeep without buying the Waterdeep book, and making stuff up based on the smaller knowledge you have from the main campaign settings (just makes sure, to tell all your players that this means they cannot use their own prior knowledge on Waterdeep, in case <em>they</em> have that book).</p><p></p><p>OTOH, if you play 3ed you are much more constrained to use the 3ed version of the settings, because all the "crunch" is designed to match the "fluff", and the "fluff" is changed a lot compared to 2ed.</p><p></p><p>Then you want to move to 4e because you like its rules mechanic more? Ah, but you have to then eat up whatever huge change they did to 4e FR, because the 3e crunch won't work anymore, and the 4e crunch for FR is matched to 4e huge changes to FR world.</p><p></p><p>That's what I find oppressive... And that's what I mean when I say that fantasy settings shouldn't change. The <em>fluff</em> shouldn't change, the in-world stuff shouldn't change... The <em>crunch </em>of course can change to adapt to the new rules! So they can still convert old books to the new rules and sell them. Instead we got the totally nuts idea of the Times of Troubles once and every edition change since then.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 6130075, member: 1465"] I was obviously referring to design space in fact. I find the metaplot and the turning around of the world at each edition change much more oppressive! Because you don't have to use all the regional books if you don't want to: you can just set an adventure in e.g. Waterdeep without buying the Waterdeep book, and making stuff up based on the smaller knowledge you have from the main campaign settings (just makes sure, to tell all your players that this means they cannot use their own prior knowledge on Waterdeep, in case [I]they[/I] have that book). OTOH, if you play 3ed you are much more constrained to use the 3ed version of the settings, because all the "crunch" is designed to match the "fluff", and the "fluff" is changed a lot compared to 2ed. Then you want to move to 4e because you like its rules mechanic more? Ah, but you have to then eat up whatever huge change they did to 4e FR, because the 3e crunch won't work anymore, and the 4e crunch for FR is matched to 4e huge changes to FR world. That's what I find oppressive... And that's what I mean when I say that fantasy settings shouldn't change. The [I]fluff[/I] shouldn't change, the in-world stuff shouldn't change... The [I]crunch [/I]of course can change to adapt to the new rules! So they can still convert old books to the new rules and sell them. Instead we got the totally nuts idea of the Times of Troubles once and every edition change since then. [/QUOTE]
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