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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jiggawatts" data-source="post: 6133584" data-attributes="member: 6687982">Are you saying Planescape should have never been made, or do we go back further and you are saying Gygax should have never put the Great Wheel diagram in the back of the 1E PHB? Given the editions that actually used it (1E-3E), how much of the planar cosmology is actually baked into the core game....not much, usually only spells, most of which only deal with the Astral and Ethereal. But hell, if the DM says that demons and devils come from the Plane of Rainbowkittyland in his campaign, then bygod thats where they come from. The 3E PHB had the Greyhawk gods in it as the "default", and if a DM is running a homebrew then no one should be giving him crap about using his own deities and not the gods list from the book....though that doesn't mean Greyhawk gods, or Greyhawk itself, shouldn't exist.The way I look at it is like this, the book says these specific places are the official planes, just like it says paladins can smite evil, well maybe a DM's campaign world is hugely focused on law vs chaos, with good and evil as a mere afterthought, that DM is totally free to decree that paladins in his world smite chaos instead of evil, even though the rulebook says otherwise. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />And lastly, as has been mostly agreed upon in the "Is D&D a toolbox or setting" thread, D&D is not a toolbox, its not GURPS, at its core its a setting, its own genre of fantasy. D&D comes with many assumptions baked in, that doesn't mean one cant channel their inner Dragonlance gnome and use it as a toolbox to tinker to their hearts content, but there are far better game systems out there to do that with.</blockquote>

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