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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6136356" data-attributes="member: 22779">Again, you're missing the point.  It's not that the lore must change between editions.  It's that the lore can change between editions.  But, whenever any planar discussions come up, it's canon uber alles.  You cannot even discuss changing the lore without people flat out telling you that you are wrong.I mean, look at dragons.  Every edition has radically changed dragons.  Dragons went from a fairly low level threat in AD&D to massive airplane sized beasties in 2e to virtual gods in 3e before getting clawed back pretty hard in 4e.  And everyone seems okay with that.  But, make fairly minor changes to Planescape lore and we get 50 page threads.I obviously disagree.  There are certainly metrics that can be used and those metrics can be discussed.  However, simply throwing up our hands and saying, "well, since it's all subjective, we might as well just keep what came before, never changing anything" isn't really useful is it?  Look at the evolution of a Paladin from 1e to 3e.  Why do we get the summonable mount for 3e paladins?  Is it more flavourful?  Is it more in keeping with the class?  Or is it because mounts are a PITA in game and having a pokemount is a lot easier to use at the table?  I'd argue that it's the latter.So, we get pokemounts in 3e.  Radical alteration of the paladin lore.  Pally's no longer have to quest for their mount and no longer have to take care of it after they do.  But, that's okay apparently.  Sure, discussion over the pokemount has happened, but, at no point was it, "Well, paladins never had this power so we must never change the paladin lore".  I saw lots of arguments that the pokemount didn't fit with the flavour of the paladin.  That it was too overtly magical.  This and that.  But, I rarely saw the lore for lore's sake argument trotted out.Merit in this case, for me anyway, means how it's used at the table.  A Plane of Fire where it looks like the surface of the sun, isn't terribly useful.  Either convince me that an unending Plane of Fire can be used at the table, or let me change it.</blockquote>

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