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<blockquote data-quote="Alan Shutko" data-source="post: 6136897" data-attributes="member: 23694">They're definitely a branch. But since I enjoy comparing editions and this thread loves tangents, I'll continue comparing them.Cosmology and lore are a huge way the Basic D&amp;D lines differ from the AD&amp;D lines.&nbsp; The outer planes are different.&nbsp; Otiluke and Bigby never made an appearance.&nbsp; But the spell lists are extremely similar, and cross-pollenation happened while they coexisted.&nbsp; Tons of magic items were the same.&nbsp; The monster lists are very very similar, with many of the iconic monsters being in both editions (e.g. beholder) while some weren't (mindflayer, drow).&nbsp; Some monsters started in the D&amp;D line but migrated to AD&amp;D and 3e: nightcrawler, nightwing, nightwalker (were in the Mystara MC in 2e and in the MM in 3e).&nbsp; Mentzer D&amp;D contained the first example of prestige classes in the paladin, avenger, and knight.&nbsp; That experiment, and the simplified attribute bonuses, appear in 3e.&nbsp; NWP were mimicked in the GAZ series and RCD&amp;D as skills.&nbsp; In both cases, they weren't quite streamlined enough and were trimmed for 3e.&nbsp; Magic item creation was much more thought out in the GAZ series and I think some of the concepts translated to 3e, although there were major differences (notably, costing vs granting XP).&nbsp; In the &quot;Feels like D&amp;D&quot; test, I'd say these editions definitely had it, with the exception of the cosmology.&nbsp; (And maybe race as class, but that's easy to acclimate to.)&nbsp; I've seen ideas from that line of D&amp;D appear in every edition since 2e, and hopefully some more will appear in D&amp;D Next.&lt;/tangent&gt;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Alan Shutko, post: 6136897, member: 23694"] They're definitely a branch. But since I enjoy comparing editions and this thread loves tangents, I'll continue comparing them. Cosmology and lore are a huge way the Basic D&D lines differ from the AD&D lines. The outer planes are different. Otiluke and Bigby never made an appearance. But the spell lists are extremely similar, and cross-pollenation happened while they coexisted. Tons of magic items were the same. The monster lists are very very similar, with many of the iconic monsters being in both editions (e.g. beholder) while some weren't (mindflayer, drow). Some monsters started in the D&D line but migrated to AD&D and 3e: nightcrawler, nightwing, nightwalker (were in the Mystara MC in 2e and in the MM in 3e). Mentzer D&D contained the first example of prestige classes in the paladin, avenger, and knight. That experiment, and the simplified attribute bonuses, appear in 3e. NWP were mimicked in the GAZ series and RCD&D as skills. In both cases, they weren't quite streamlined enough and were trimmed for 3e. Magic item creation was much more thought out in the GAZ series and I think some of the concepts translated to 3e, although there were major differences (notably, costing vs granting XP). In the "Feels like D&D" test, I'd say these editions definitely had it, with the exception of the cosmology. (And maybe race as class, but that's easy to acclimate to.) I've seen ideas from that line of D&D appear in every edition since 2e, and hopefully some more will appear in D&D Next. </tangent> [/QUOTE]

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