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<blockquote data-quote="mythusmage" data-source="post: 1133700" data-attributes="member: 571"><p>In other words, you don't notice the mistakes because they're part of the background noise. Something you've gotten used to.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So the fact people tend to be bad at one thing or another justifies 'slacking off' on writing?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Bad news, bunky, by your criteria most every employer is shallow. They aint got time to put up with any attitude, especially from somebody who doesn't care how he comes across on an interview. You want to work in any type of economy you make a good impression or it's another meal of generic ramen.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Frankly, any editor who would accept sloppy writing is not someone I'd submit material to. So editors like different stuff, that's fine by me. But no editor worth his salary is going to accept crap for a professional publication.</p><p></p><p>By the way, professional writers don't always post to 'pro boards'. Sometimes they post to boards like this. Yet still they take pains to write well. It matters to them.</p><p></p><p>As for nobody looking for writers here, I was offered work based on my postings to a thread, and another publisher offered to assist with publication of projects of mine, once I had them done. In both cases I blew it (didn't get the work done), but at least I got the chance thanks to the care I took with my writing in a venue where, according to you, it doesn't matter.</p><p></p><p>Finally, for this section, you need to practise your sarcasm. Anger is important, but it should never overshadow your sense of humor.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The problem is, they are doing only what is necessary, no more. To be brutal here, they are being very rude, expecting their readers to tolerate a level of incompetence and callousness we should not have to put up with. I come here to engage in communication, not to puzzle my way through an essay composed by some chap with no consideration for his readers.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wrong! Good spelling is not absurd. Good grammar is not absurd. Good compositional skills are not absurd. My problem is with those who don't care enough to do their best, regardless of venue. And with those who would excuse their behavior. You have defended incompetence. Defended it with great vigor and vehemence. You have stated on more than one occasion in this thread alone that proper use of English doesn't matter on a message board. Not in so many words, but you have said it for all intents and purposes. If that isn't defense of incompetence, then I've given birth to three echidnas</p><p></p><p>That, young man, is what I grade you on. Not your skills. Certainly not the content of your messages. I am grading your on the message you send, and in that you are failing. You are defending people who don't care. You are defending willful incompetence. It is that I object to.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Would it have killed you to correct them?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You need to raise your standards.</p><p></p><p>From your previous posts on this subject I had gotten the impression you were around college age. Nice to know I'm right. Your behavior through this whole affair has been all too typical of a young adult. Argumentative, defensive, full of just rage, and contemptuous of those who disagree with you. Somebody has dared to contradict you. Somebody has dared to tell you that you are wrong, and that offends your delicate sensibilities.</p><p></p><p>If good spelling is professionalism, then I demand professionalism. If good grammar is professionalism, then I demand professionalism. If good composition is professionalism, then I demand professionalism. So long as there is poor spelling, poor grammar, poor composition, I shall demand professionalism. So long as people excuse bad writing I shall demand professionalism. So long as people don't care, I shall demand professionalism. I care, and I will take people to task for how they post. Not what they post, how. How they spell, how they use punctuation, how they structure a sentence, their vocabulary. How they structure their argument, how they defend their position. And I will be keeping an eye on you. Your writing on these boards will be assessed. Not every posting, I don't have the time for that. But those I do catch will be weighed in the balance and I will comment upon them as exercises in writing. When your writing is good I will tell you so. When your writing is poor, you will hear of it from me. What gives me the right? You do. You have roused my ire, now you pay the price.</p><p></p><p>Think I was mean before? <em>Now</em> I'm starting to get miffed.:evil grin:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mythusmage, post: 1133700, member: 571"] In other words, you don't notice the mistakes because they're part of the background noise. Something you've gotten used to. So the fact people tend to be bad at one thing or another justifies 'slacking off' on writing? Bad news, bunky, by your criteria most every employer is shallow. They aint got time to put up with any attitude, especially from somebody who doesn't care how he comes across on an interview. You want to work in any type of economy you make a good impression or it's another meal of generic ramen. Frankly, any editor who would accept sloppy writing is not someone I'd submit material to. So editors like different stuff, that's fine by me. But no editor worth his salary is going to accept crap for a professional publication. By the way, professional writers don't always post to 'pro boards'. Sometimes they post to boards like this. Yet still they take pains to write well. It matters to them. As for nobody looking for writers here, I was offered work based on my postings to a thread, and another publisher offered to assist with publication of projects of mine, once I had them done. In both cases I blew it (didn't get the work done), but at least I got the chance thanks to the care I took with my writing in a venue where, according to you, it doesn't matter. Finally, for this section, you need to practise your sarcasm. Anger is important, but it should never overshadow your sense of humor. The problem is, they are doing only what is necessary, no more. To be brutal here, they are being very rude, expecting their readers to tolerate a level of incompetence and callousness we should not have to put up with. I come here to engage in communication, not to puzzle my way through an essay composed by some chap with no consideration for his readers. Wrong! Good spelling is not absurd. Good grammar is not absurd. Good compositional skills are not absurd. My problem is with those who don't care enough to do their best, regardless of venue. And with those who would excuse their behavior. You have defended incompetence. Defended it with great vigor and vehemence. You have stated on more than one occasion in this thread alone that proper use of English doesn't matter on a message board. Not in so many words, but you have said it for all intents and purposes. If that isn't defense of incompetence, then I've given birth to three echidnas That, young man, is what I grade you on. Not your skills. Certainly not the content of your messages. I am grading your on the message you send, and in that you are failing. You are defending people who don't care. You are defending willful incompetence. It is that I object to. Would it have killed you to correct them? You need to raise your standards. From your previous posts on this subject I had gotten the impression you were around college age. Nice to know I'm right. Your behavior through this whole affair has been all too typical of a young adult. Argumentative, defensive, full of just rage, and contemptuous of those who disagree with you. Somebody has dared to contradict you. Somebody has dared to tell you that you are wrong, and that offends your delicate sensibilities. If good spelling is professionalism, then I demand professionalism. If good grammar is professionalism, then I demand professionalism. If good composition is professionalism, then I demand professionalism. So long as there is poor spelling, poor grammar, poor composition, I shall demand professionalism. So long as people excuse bad writing I shall demand professionalism. So long as people don't care, I shall demand professionalism. I care, and I will take people to task for how they post. Not what they post, how. How they spell, how they use punctuation, how they structure a sentence, their vocabulary. How they structure their argument, how they defend their position. And I will be keeping an eye on you. Your writing on these boards will be assessed. Not every posting, I don't have the time for that. But those I do catch will be weighed in the balance and I will comment upon them as exercises in writing. When your writing is good I will tell you so. When your writing is poor, you will hear of it from me. What gives me the right? You do. You have roused my ire, now you pay the price. Think I was mean before? [i]Now[/i] I'm starting to get miffed.:evil grin: [/QUOTE]
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