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<blockquote data-quote="mythusmage" data-source="post: 1135739" data-attributes="member: 571"><p>How so?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Your proof?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How so?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Where did I say you said that? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>On this you missed my point. Professional writers care about how they come across regardless of the venue. Since you' apparently, do not, your claim to be a professional writer can only be taken with a grain of salt.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And thus our Mr. O'Brien insults most everybody in the RPG industry. At least those making an effort to produce professional work. And he wonders why I'm on his case.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How so?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Damn right it's rude. If you don't care enough about your readers to check the spelling of your post, then don't post. And don't give me any crap about "what readers", you post on a public or private messageboard you have readers. You are, in a sense, publishing, and publishing to an audience. By being lazy about spelling, grammar, and composition you are insulting that audience. The mark of a professional writer is that he treats all he writes to as paying customers.</p><p></p><p>Where those who know English as a second language are concerned, I refuse to cut them any slack. The more they practice proper English, according to present day standards, the easier it will be for them in the future. I will not patronize anyone.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>In other words, you don't think the readers of ENWorld message board postings are worth taking the extra time it would take to do a simple proofreading. Nice to know the esteem you hold us in.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're not into sub-text and deconstruction, are you?<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> To make it simple for you, I was referring to <em>how</em> you deliver your message. There's also a lot to be learned from how a person says something, and in what they don't say.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How so?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Your standards regarding hyperbole are too low. In some circles my words would be considered understatements.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>1. My perceptions are consistent because you consistently act like someone in their early twenties, instead of responding in the mature manner your age would call for. </p><p></p><p>2. Fine, you've been published and you've done some editing. But now you're showing the same lack of professionalism you accuse the RPG business of exhibiting.</p><p></p><p>3. Deflecting my arguments? When will it start?</p><p></p><p>4. When did I do that? That was hyperbole.</p><p></p><p>5. Now that is a non sequitor. The issue here has nothing to do with linguistic evolution, it has to do with spelling, grammar, and compositon in postings to a message board. How written American English changes in the course of a century has nothing to do with it.</p><p></p><p>6. Appeal to authority. Even worse, appeal to self authority. That tell me far more than you think about you. Not liking another's argument does not render it invalid. You make it worse by admitting you hold me in contempt, thus hoping to make me react in an emotional, negative fashion. If this is an indication of your grasp of rhetoric, you need to go back to school.That aside, who has been reacting with volume and agression? Remember, it's not only what you say, it's how you say it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So you take your anger out on us. Why not start your own company? It's not that expensive. Start producing your own products according to your own standards. Show people how it's done, instead of complaining about the industry's standards. Raise the bar, dammit, instead of complaining about how low it is.</p><p></p><p>Now, call my any name you feel like, but I have known death more times than you could ever imagine. Had I not drowned (a suicide) I'd be somebody else and about 67. I know life is short, but it is never too short to take pains where how you come across to others is concerned. I don't expect true professionalism from hobbyists. They show professionalism then good for them, but I will not demand it from them. From you, a professional, then I expect professionalism. Is your life so busy you literally have no time to correct your messages before posting them here? Or do you have no consideration for your readers?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mythusmage, post: 1135739, member: 571"] How so? Your proof? How so? Where did I say you said that? On this you missed my point. Professional writers care about how they come across regardless of the venue. Since you' apparently, do not, your claim to be a professional writer can only be taken with a grain of salt. And thus our Mr. O'Brien insults most everybody in the RPG industry. At least those making an effort to produce professional work. And he wonders why I'm on his case. How so? Damn right it's rude. If you don't care enough about your readers to check the spelling of your post, then don't post. And don't give me any crap about "what readers", you post on a public or private messageboard you have readers. You are, in a sense, publishing, and publishing to an audience. By being lazy about spelling, grammar, and composition you are insulting that audience. The mark of a professional writer is that he treats all he writes to as paying customers. Where those who know English as a second language are concerned, I refuse to cut them any slack. The more they practice proper English, according to present day standards, the easier it will be for them in the future. I will not patronize anyone. In other words, you don't think the readers of ENWorld message board postings are worth taking the extra time it would take to do a simple proofreading. Nice to know the esteem you hold us in. You're not into sub-text and deconstruction, are you?:) To make it simple for you, I was referring to [i]how[/i] you deliver your message. There's also a lot to be learned from how a person says something, and in what they don't say. How so? Your standards regarding hyperbole are too low. In some circles my words would be considered understatements. 1. My perceptions are consistent because you consistently act like someone in their early twenties, instead of responding in the mature manner your age would call for. 2. Fine, you've been published and you've done some editing. But now you're showing the same lack of professionalism you accuse the RPG business of exhibiting. 3. Deflecting my arguments? When will it start? 4. When did I do that? That was hyperbole. 5. Now that is a non sequitor. The issue here has nothing to do with linguistic evolution, it has to do with spelling, grammar, and compositon in postings to a message board. How written American English changes in the course of a century has nothing to do with it. 6. Appeal to authority. Even worse, appeal to self authority. That tell me far more than you think about you. Not liking another's argument does not render it invalid. You make it worse by admitting you hold me in contempt, thus hoping to make me react in an emotional, negative fashion. If this is an indication of your grasp of rhetoric, you need to go back to school.That aside, who has been reacting with volume and agression? Remember, it's not only what you say, it's how you say it. So you take your anger out on us. Why not start your own company? It's not that expensive. Start producing your own products according to your own standards. Show people how it's done, instead of complaining about the industry's standards. Raise the bar, dammit, instead of complaining about how low it is. Now, call my any name you feel like, but I have known death more times than you could ever imagine. Had I not drowned (a suicide) I'd be somebody else and about 67. I know life is short, but it is never too short to take pains where how you come across to others is concerned. I don't expect true professionalism from hobbyists. They show professionalism then good for them, but I will not demand it from them. From you, a professional, then I expect professionalism. Is your life so busy you literally have no time to correct your messages before posting them here? Or do you have no consideration for your readers? [/QUOTE]
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