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<blockquote data-quote="Shiroiken" data-source="post: 8056692" data-attributes="member: 6775477"><p>I have, and these [explitive] have ruined entire campaigns before. In general these are not the people you choose to game with, but play with them when you have few options. You are correct that the boards are full of whiteboard comparisons.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The only comparable way to "stack up" a 5E PC with another is if they're performing the EXACT same niche. Since parties that have characters doing that tend to fail miserably, most groups make an effort to not do that anyway. There are many different roles that a character can fill, and many PCs focus on a primary role, but usually have a secondary role as well. </p><p></p><p>My dwarven cleric is primarily an out of combat healer (our bard takes care of in-combat healing with Healing Word), but in combat I'm the equivalent to a tank because I regularly use Spirit Guardians. This draws fire from everyone in my immediate vicinity, as well as a lot of ranged attacks. My AC is solid, and with an 18 Con and Con save proficiency, I can take the hits and keep the spell going for a long time. This frees up our Paladin, Hexblade, and Barbarian to dish out some serious damage in melee without too much backlash. I do less damage than anyone in the party except for the bard (who IME are always bottom of the DPR totem pole), but I don't feel like I'm not contributing. That's my role, and I'm darn good at it!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shiroiken, post: 8056692, member: 6775477"] I have, and these [explitive] have ruined entire campaigns before. In general these are not the people you choose to game with, but play with them when you have few options. You are correct that the boards are full of whiteboard comparisons. The only comparable way to "stack up" a 5E PC with another is if they're performing the EXACT same niche. Since parties that have characters doing that tend to fail miserably, most groups make an effort to not do that anyway. There are many different roles that a character can fill, and many PCs focus on a primary role, but usually have a secondary role as well. My dwarven cleric is primarily an out of combat healer (our bard takes care of in-combat healing with Healing Word), but in combat I'm the equivalent to a tank because I regularly use Spirit Guardians. This draws fire from everyone in my immediate vicinity, as well as a lot of ranged attacks. My AC is solid, and with an 18 Con and Con save proficiency, I can take the hits and keep the spell going for a long time. This frees up our Paladin, Hexblade, and Barbarian to dish out some serious damage in melee without too much backlash. I do less damage than anyone in the party except for the bard (who IME are always bottom of the DPR totem pole), but I don't feel like I'm not contributing. That's my role, and I'm darn good at it! [/QUOTE]
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