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<blockquote data-quote="Ancalagon" data-source="post: 8058587" data-attributes="member: 23">So if a dragon just shows up and wrecks the party, sure that is the GM being a dick.&nbsp;&nbsp; But that's not the example. The ogres are clearly too much for the party to take on in a straight on fight (and the GM should make sure to communicate that well to the party).&nbsp;&nbsp; But not every problem can be solved by beating it up.&nbsp; The PCs have a serious challenge... what do they do?&nbsp; They could leave town - too much for us!&nbsp; They could try to rally the villagers and set traps and defensive positions.&nbsp;&nbsp; They could try to recruit help - mercenaries, that spooky wizard who lives in the tower 3 hills that way, maaaybe even a dragon!&nbsp;&nbsp; The ogres might be bribed, they could be fooled into leaving, they could be poisoned....... really the possibilities for solution and exciting adventures that result are only limited by your imagination.&nbsp;&nbsp; Don't be afraid to put a hard problem in front of the PCs.&nbsp; Their cleverness and resourcefulness will amaze and delight you.Am I silly to wish for this, as a player or a GM?&nbsp; I think not.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ancalagon, post: 8058587, member: 23"] So if a dragon just shows up and wrecks the party, sure that is the GM being a dick. But that's not the example. The ogres are clearly too much for the party to take on in a straight on fight (and the GM should make sure to communicate that well to the party). But not every problem can be solved by beating it up. The PCs have a serious challenge... what do they do? They could leave town - too much for us! They could try to rally the villagers and set traps and defensive positions. They could try to recruit help - mercenaries, that spooky wizard who lives in the tower 3 hills that way, maaaybe even a dragon! The ogres might be bribed, they could be fooled into leaving, they could be poisoned.... ... really the possibilities for solution and exciting adventures that result are only limited by your imagination. Don't be afraid to put a hard problem in front of the PCs. Their cleverness and resourcefulness will amaze and delight you. Am I silly to wish for this, as a player or a GM? I think not. [/QUOTE]

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