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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 4850517" data-attributes="member: 18280"><p>I would say that marketing is a powerful force, as is peer pressure. Also, sometimes there is nothing that well suits a person's needs, and one attempts to select something that can be modified to taste.</p><p></p><p>So long as you know how the ruleset will affect play, and so long as you have some idea what you are looking for, you should be all right.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is often the result of making dismissive blanket statements that one doesn't back up. Like the whole "false dichotomy" thing.</p><p></p><p>IOW, I suggest that if there have been "less than pleasant" aspects to any conversations related to your "false dictotomy" position, they might be related more to your refusal to give a rational basis for the statement than anything else. </p><p></p><p>Moreover, if it is true that you haven't supplied "any rational argument...to explain why you feel this way" "Largely because most of the discussion I've seen and been part of on the topic has overall been less than pleasant", I fail to see what having more patience and waiting longer for you to answer would accomplish.</p><p></p><p>I didn't put words into your mouth in any way, shape, or form. I merely looked at what you said, and tried to determine what a rational position given your statements <em><strong>could be</strong></em>. </p><p></p><p>EDIT: As a dichotomy is any splitting of a whole into exactly two non-overlapping parts, I don't think that I am wholly wrong in my analysis either. If you decide that the OS & NS labels are the only way to split the whole, and that they cannot overlap, you are creating a false dichotomy that isn't present in the actual idea of OS or NS games.</p><p></p><p>And I stated why I disagree with your position, within the limitations of my understanding of it. Because leaving that statement out there without examining it at all is, IMHO, a disservice to gamers.....and I gave my reasons for believing that as well.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Absolutely. Had you supplied more, I would have looked at what you supplied. Fork a thread whenever you like, or explain more fully the next time you make the claim. I would be happy to discuss the matter with you or with anyone else.</p><p></p><p>Like I said, I've made some guesses as to what a rational position given your statements <em><strong>could be</strong></em>, but I would be more than happy to hear what the rationale behind your position <em><strong>actually is</strong></em>.</p><p></p><p></p><p>RC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 4850517, member: 18280"] I would say that marketing is a powerful force, as is peer pressure. Also, sometimes there is nothing that well suits a person's needs, and one attempts to select something that can be modified to taste. So long as you know how the ruleset will affect play, and so long as you have some idea what you are looking for, you should be all right. That is often the result of making dismissive blanket statements that one doesn't back up. Like the whole "false dichotomy" thing. IOW, I suggest that if there have been "less than pleasant" aspects to any conversations related to your "false dictotomy" position, they might be related more to your refusal to give a rational basis for the statement than anything else. Moreover, if it is true that you haven't supplied "any rational argument...to explain why you feel this way" "Largely because most of the discussion I've seen and been part of on the topic has overall been less than pleasant", I fail to see what having more patience and waiting longer for you to answer would accomplish. I didn't put words into your mouth in any way, shape, or form. I merely looked at what you said, and tried to determine what a rational position given your statements [i][b]could be[/b][/i][b][/b]. EDIT: As a dichotomy is any splitting of a whole into exactly two non-overlapping parts, I don't think that I am wholly wrong in my analysis either. If you decide that the OS & NS labels are the only way to split the whole, and that they cannot overlap, you are creating a false dichotomy that isn't present in the actual idea of OS or NS games. And I stated why I disagree with your position, within the limitations of my understanding of it. Because leaving that statement out there without examining it at all is, IMHO, a disservice to gamers.....and I gave my reasons for believing that as well. Absolutely. Had you supplied more, I would have looked at what you supplied. Fork a thread whenever you like, or explain more fully the next time you make the claim. I would be happy to discuss the matter with you or with anyone else. Like I said, I've made some guesses as to what a rational position given your statements [i][b]could be[/b][/i][b][/b], but I would be more than happy to hear what the rationale behind your position [i][b]actually is[/b][/i][b][/b]. RC [/QUOTE]
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