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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6429379" data-attributes="member: 22779">[MENTION=50658]Remithilis[/mention]- sorry, but, what does "abjectiveless" mean?Just a nitpick here, but, switching out Vancian for Spellpoint casting isn't really a flavour change.  It's a mechanical one (although it does carry flavour implications as well) primarily.  It kind of hit home to me recently in a conversation I was having about Battletech.  I've recently gotten back into Btech after a very extended hiatus.  But, even back in the day, while I really enjoyed Btech, the Battletech Universe was barely a blip on my radar.  I used a few of the maps and maybe borrowed this or that from the flavour text - the existence of Houses, for example.  But as far as the BTU (Battletech Universe) went, I simply didn't care.  In the conversation I was having, we were talking about the old Saturday morning cartoon Battletech.  I commented that I rather enjoyed the cartoon - I thought it captured Btech pretty well and the conceit where they went into a different style of animation (very CG) when the Clan mechs were fighting to differentiate the different tech levels was, IMO, very well done.  The stories were pretty cool and I liked the show.The other guy loathed it with a passion.  Absolutely hated it.  I asked why and he said that it was because the cartoon contradicted so much of the BTU.  And, after doing a bit of reading, it certainly did.  The TV show might have nominally been in the BTU, but, really, it was it's own thing.  However, since I tend to think of flavour elements as largely disposable, it never even registered on me that there was a major difference.  I simply didn't care.  It had giant robots duking it out with BFG's.  It had mercenaries and whatnot.  It was Btech enough for me.  And that's largely how I view D&D.  Flavour elements are disposable AFAIC.  I might use them, if I want to, or I might eject them as the case may be.  I'm pretty reluctant to start futzing about with the mechanical parts of D&D, but flavour?  Meh, that's whatever I want it to be.</blockquote>

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