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<blockquote data-quote="kigmatzomat" data-source="post: 2231107" data-attributes="member: 9254">I think the issue here is thinking &quot;not being in a dungeon&quot; is &quot;down&quot; time.&nbsp; Non-combat time is not &quot;down&quot; time IMC.&nbsp; The bard needs city time to do some networking, the cleric has to report in to the head office, the fighters and rogues are managing their investments, and the wizard is scribing spells.&nbsp; Additionally, the the cleric, druid, and wizard do item crafting at the same time other magic items are being commissioned.&nbsp; If the fighter wants to turn a large chunk of platinum into a weapon+4 he either pays a party caster or comissions it from an outside agency. (Magic shops?&nbsp; What are those?)&nbsp;&nbsp; In both cases it takes time, time that the PC casters use.&nbsp; The phrase &quot;I'll catch up&quot; is quite accurate to most PC casters at the higher levels.&nbsp; Sure, the mage can't teleport to the unseen Fortress of Mu but if the players bring along their normal, distinctive traveling pavilion tent and set it up at night he can teleport there.&nbsp; That tactic was used recently when the fighter commissioned a custom Sunblade (based on a scimitar/falchion instead of short sword/bastard sword) and the wizard stayed behind to make it.&nbsp; A high enough level cleric will do the same thing with a touch of Miracle and druids can cover immense amounts of ground with Tree Stride or just wildshape.&nbsp; Many item creation tasks can be delayed or scheduled.&nbsp; Most years my party spend winters relaxing and handling routine tasks (magic item crafting, scribing memoirs, handling their investments, managing their lands, planning new construction, responding to the correspondence that has been piling up while they were on &quot;up&quot; time, etc.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kigmatzomat, post: 2231107, member: 9254"] I think the issue here is thinking "not being in a dungeon" is "down" time. Non-combat time is not "down" time IMC. The bard needs city time to do some networking, the cleric has to report in to the head office, the fighters and rogues are managing their investments, and the wizard is scribing spells. Additionally, the the cleric, druid, and wizard do item crafting at the same time other magic items are being commissioned. If the fighter wants to turn a large chunk of platinum into a weapon+4 he either pays a party caster or comissions it from an outside agency. (Magic shops? What are those?) In both cases it takes time, time that the PC casters use. The phrase "I'll catch up" is quite accurate to most PC casters at the higher levels. Sure, the mage can't teleport to the unseen Fortress of Mu but if the players bring along their normal, distinctive traveling pavilion tent and set it up at night he can teleport there. That tactic was used recently when the fighter commissioned a custom Sunblade (based on a scimitar/falchion instead of short sword/bastard sword) and the wizard stayed behind to make it. A high enough level cleric will do the same thing with a touch of Miracle and druids can cover immense amounts of ground with Tree Stride or just wildshape. Many item creation tasks can be delayed or scheduled. Most years my party spend winters relaxing and handling routine tasks (magic item crafting, scribing memoirs, handling their investments, managing their lands, planning new construction, responding to the correspondence that has been piling up while they were on "up" time, etc.) [/QUOTE]

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