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Message: <blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 5686107" data-attributes="member: 43019">Destructive Salution... and yeah, there's a reason the proposed revision for the power changes the stun to dazed <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Monsters with PC powers can work very well, but you have to know which ones to take - things like immediates that exclude you from attacks, or deny an attack in the first place.Also, you generally want enemies spread out a lot at Epic. At least at the start of combat. If the burst 3 from the wizard had only caught half the enemies at most, pretty different encounter.That said, it's generally the case that PCs can do some amazing things at epic. Especially when the crits start happening (someone crit for 160 last night - that's one heck of a crit).It's also been very interesting for me to compare two epic groups I'm running at the moment through an adventure - I think one of them might have at least 50% more damage output than the other.</blockquote>