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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gez" data-source="post: 841960" data-attributes="member: 1328">The cleric is overpowered. It's a conscious choice of the game developers. Why ? Because they want people to play clerics. Why ? Because they made the game in a way that makes clerics necessary.The basic team is Cleric (healing), Fighter (bashing), Rogue (scouting), Wizard (toasting).Noone can heal as well as a cleric. Druids ? Except cure minor wounds and cure light wounds, all their healing spells are one level higher, and they have much less. Rangers ? Don't make me laugh, they may heal maybe the twentieth of what a cleric can, and not before level 4. Paladins ? With lay on hands, they're better than rangers, but not by much. Bards ? They need to take a cure wounds spell, which isn't a given considering their little spell known list, and they're maybe one half of a druid there. Other classes ? Only through twisted ways, such as a rogue using a magic device, or a wizard using polymorph self or summoning eight formian workers or a celestial unicorn...A party without a cleric is a problem (well, if you have Oriental Adventures, shaman and shugenja may replace the cleric).However, a party without a fighter isn't much a problem. Paladins, rangers and samurai bash nigh as well as fighters. Monks, clerics, druids, rogues, and psychic warriors are all potent second choices.A party without a rogue isn't in big trouble either, unless they're deep into dungeon crawling and there are traps everywhere. Even then, a single level of rogue is enough to be allowed to search traps (and the cosmopolitan feat can take care of that pesky cross-class thingie). All other parts of a rogue's task (scouting, socializing, disposing quickly of a sentry) may be filled by other party members (ranger, bard, spellcaster).A party without a wizard may toast on great scales as well. Sorcerers, of course, but also clerics, druids, and psions (plus their oriental variants, shaman, shugenja and wu-jen).But there are still people who don't want to play clerics. Maybe because <a href="http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp05212002.html" target="_blank">pedophile biggots</a> don't have much an appeal. So, they'll be still a bit more overpowered. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes    :rolleyes:"  data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></blockquote>

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