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<blockquote data-quote="Bendris Noulg" data-source="post: 815997" data-attributes="member: 6398"><p>Well, the way I look at it is this:</p><p></p><p>Can a Wiz7/Clr3/MysT10 gain Epic Spellcasting?</p><p>Can a Clr7/Wiz3/MysT10 gain Epic Spellcasting?</p><p></p><p>The answer to both is yes, as the requirements for Epic Spellcasting is to have access to 9th Level Spells, not 20th Caster Level.</p><p></p><p>Now, <em>instead</em> hit 20th Level as Clr5/Wiz5/MysT10 and take MysT from there on; At 22nd Level, you qualify for Epic Spellcasting (although you don't get a Feat until 24th), and at 25th Level you've got the full Spell output of a 40th Level character (Clr20/Wiz20). Add in the standard assortment of stat enhancers, and it just gets uglier from there.</p><p></p><p>Is the class overpowered? If your game ends at 12th-15th Level, <em>possibly</em> not, particularly if you attach enough in-setting hooks to the class (organizations, duties, rivalries, etc.). However, reduce the hooks or take this into Epic, and it's way over the top.</p><p></p><p>So, is 3.5 being written to be even more powerful than 3.0 seems to favor, or simply short-sighted? I don't know. I do know that I'm going to go over the SRD with a fine-tooth comb before I put out <em>any</em> money for it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bendris Noulg, post: 815997, member: 6398"] Well, the way I look at it is this: Can a Wiz7/Clr3/MysT10 gain Epic Spellcasting? Can a Clr7/Wiz3/MysT10 gain Epic Spellcasting? The answer to both is yes, as the requirements for Epic Spellcasting is to have access to 9th Level Spells, not 20th Caster Level. Now, [i]instead[/i] hit 20th Level as Clr5/Wiz5/MysT10 and take MysT from there on; At 22nd Level, you qualify for Epic Spellcasting (although you don't get a Feat until 24th), and at 25th Level you've got the full Spell output of a 40th Level character (Clr20/Wiz20). Add in the standard assortment of stat enhancers, and it just gets uglier from there. Is the class overpowered? If your game ends at 12th-15th Level, [i]possibly[/i] not, particularly if you attach enough in-setting hooks to the class (organizations, duties, rivalries, etc.). However, reduce the hooks or take this into Epic, and it's way over the top. So, is 3.5 being written to be even more powerful than 3.0 seems to favor, or simply short-sighted? I don't know. I do know that I'm going to go over the SRD with a fine-tooth comb before I put out [i]any[/i] money for it. [/QUOTE]
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