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<blockquote data-quote="green slime" data-source="post: 816871" data-attributes="member: 1325">But at 81st... We have yet to see the Epic version of this PrC. The real hindrance at Epic level is not the spell casting ability, but the amount of feats that the MT needs to expend in BOTH realms (Arcane and Divine) in order to maintain efficiency. Those MINIMUM of two spell levels behind the Wizard at epic 25th level will grow even higher should the MT even attempt to maintain an even growth across both sources of spell power.hmmm... It doesn't make much difference if today a fighter type just multiclasses into a class which permits the use of wand of CLW, gains three feats, loses no BAB, gains in Fort save (always good for a frontliner)...In all I think reducing the temptation to grab for a 1 level gimme is good. Although I too was at first a bit taken aback by the idea of merging those two feats. There is no doubt however that two weapon wielders were seriously short on feats. However, perhaps we shall see some more merging of of various weak feats (run/endurance). which IMO would be a good idea...Back on topic, it is really hard to discuss the effects of taking this class into Epic when we don't have the Epic version available. We can only speculate as to how the Epic progression apears. My guess is that it will work out surprisingly well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="green slime, post: 816871, member: 1325"] But at 81st... We have yet to see the Epic version of this PrC. The real hindrance at Epic level is not the spell casting ability, but the amount of feats that the MT needs to expend in BOTH realms (Arcane and Divine) in order to maintain efficiency. Those MINIMUM of two spell levels behind the Wizard at epic 25th level will grow even higher should the MT even attempt to maintain an even growth across both sources of spell power. hmmm... It doesn't make much difference if today a fighter type just multiclasses into a class which permits the use of [i]wand of CLW[/i], gains three feats, loses no BAB, gains in Fort save (always good for a frontliner)... In all I think reducing the temptation to grab for a 1 level gimme is good. Although I too was at first a bit taken aback by the idea of merging those two feats. There is no doubt however that two weapon wielders were seriously short on feats. However, perhaps we shall see some more merging of of various weak feats (run/endurance). which IMO would be a good idea... Back on topic, it is really hard to discuss the effects of taking this class into Epic when we don't have the Epic version available. We can only speculate as to how the Epic progression apears. My guess is that it will work out surprisingly well. [/QUOTE]

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