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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TerraDave" data-source="post: 5440050" data-attributes="member: 22260">I expect that this would get a different response in general. But still, yes, a lot of people did not switch over....You could try to put D&D players into various groups:--Those that never went to 3E. Yes, they exist. I know some. Some just didn't play for various reasons in the 3E era. Some (see rpg.net) actually didn’t like it. Some have went to 4E, and again I know some (and again see rpg.net). Some staid with a pre 3E version of the game. --Those that went to 3E. Now, my previous set notwithstanding, a bunch of people did play 3E. It was the game of its time and for a while seemed to be the one true game to rule them all. These in turn can be broken down into:    -----Those that tired of 3E earlier and went on to C&C, retroclones, other d20 games, savage worlds…and in some cases 4E later.     -----Those that tired of 3E later but kinda kept playing it. This seems to have been 4Es core audience (me included), and certainly who WotC marketed to.     -----Those that liked 3E but liked 4E better and switched over. I know they exist, but not sure in what numbers.    -----Those that liked 3E, but wanted something new still, and went to PF or maybe some other games (SAGA, fantasy craft).    -----Those that just liked 3E and kept playing it. --And of course the golden gleam in WotC’s eye: players new to D&D. To the extent to which there has been entry into the hobby, many have probably picked up 4E, but I bet some are playing PF or retro clones. So 4E can include those that skipped 3E, those that had already left, newcomers, and some that switched over. I doubt a majority of active 3E groups have made the switch. And the above groups raises the question of why WotC took such an aggressive stance on 4E? My guess: they felt they had done all they could with 3E, and needed to do something big to get people to leave there extremely well supported 3E games behind.</blockquote>

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