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Message: <blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 9312014" data-attributes="member: 6779310">spoken like someone whose never played a Free League game... or only Tales from the Loop and TOR 2e.Having run a bunch, they are some of the most brutal combat systems out there, directly on par with Rolemaster for how  bad crits get and in frequency of crits.I started Dragonbane early this quarter. 6 player party. So far 6 characters dead. Constant risk of death and/or disfigurement of characters.  And, due to the way experience works, that's not going to get much less deadly in play.I've run ALIEN cinematics 5 times; less than half the PCs made it out; in Chariots, 1/4, 1/6, 2/6; in Destroyer, 1/4, and that was a replacement PC. Heart: 4/5 players got characters out, but 2 of those were replacement characters, one of which was a cat. My campaigns: 1st space trucker: faded to black on 1 shot remaining in pistol couple as warrior Xenomorph came down to them; other 4 PCs already dead at that point.  2nd space trucker: ended at cliffhanger due to human malware¹ making it hit too close to home. 1st mercs: sudden end due to human malware.Twilight 2000 4th: Run 2: 5 players, 7 dead player characters over 3 months. Run 1: 3 dead PCs of 7 players and 9 total PCs, one of whom was a gut-punch to the party - as they were taking to the air in a barely functional helo, the character who had been the coleader took the crew hit... blown through the front window by a howitzer round.  The Doc was missing an arm, Capitaine Duprée was missing a leg, the mechanic had brain damage (resulting in a delusion), Gunny died via a knife to the head... and the 4 NPC kids? 3 wounded in the raid for fuel. All four kids made it out in the UH-60...  (Compared with 1st ed, 4th is much much more brutal.)Even in Vaesen - 5 PCs, 2 deaths. Both by drowning due to a specific adventure triggered even.Of the ones I've read, only Tales from the Loopisn't a potential death & dismemberment engine. TOR 2E can be potentially deadly, but wound up not in play; the NPCs just weren't hitting. (I've not read Things from the Flood, tho' I have it. I've read MYZ, Forbidden Lands, and Coriolis, run ALIEN, T2K,  Blade Runner, Dragonbane - all have very similarly brutal combat effects.)1: colorful term for the COVID-19 pandemic; term acquired from Adrian Black via Youtube.</blockquote>

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