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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 6903488" data-attributes="member: 1465">If you try to follow the RAW strictly you'll just open a can of worm each time.Think about what the monsters are doing, and rule something that makes sense. The monsters might be totally invisible but making a lot of noise moving and gruffing around, hence revealing their location. Or they might be peacefully sleeping (not snoring) and hence be totally undetected.Just yesterday I went to pick up a child of mine from post-school class, and totally failed to notice the teacher who was merely sitting behind a computer, more than half her body being in plain sight. I have no sight impairment, she was at best with half-cover, she wasn't tried to hide... but I failed to notice her presence until she started speaking. It freaked me out a bit, and made me immediately think of our discussions about the hiding rules (which then freaked me out more, since it proves I'm thinking about D&amp;D too much). I should have told her that she cannot do that to me, it's against the RAW!The RAW is a model, and just as every model, it often fails at representing reality. Reality on the other hand is just reality, and doesn't fail. So stick to your reality (even when it's fantasy!) rather than sticking to the RAW <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 6903488, member: 1465"] If you try to follow the RAW strictly you'll just open a can of worm each time. Think about what the monsters are doing, and rule something that makes sense. The monsters might be totally invisible but making a lot of noise moving and gruffing around, hence revealing their location. Or they might be peacefully sleeping (not snoring) and hence be totally undetected. Just yesterday I went to pick up a child of mine from post-school class, and totally failed to notice the teacher who was merely sitting behind a computer, more than half her body being in plain sight. I have no sight impairment, she was at best with half-cover, she wasn't tried to hide... but I failed to notice her presence until she started speaking. It freaked me out a bit, and made me immediately think of our discussions about the hiding rules (which then freaked me out more, since it proves I'm thinking about D&D too much). I should have told her that she cannot do that to me, it's against the RAW! The RAW is a model, and just as every model, it often fails at representing reality. Reality on the other hand is just reality, and doesn't fail. So stick to your reality (even when it's fantasy!) rather than sticking to the RAW :) [/QUOTE]

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