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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 6903569" data-attributes="member: 6801845">Being hidden means that people do not know where you are.&nbsp; That does not mean that if you are not hidden everyone knows exactly where you are any more than saying that since squares are rectangles all rectangles are squares.At least that's the way I run it in my game.&nbsp; If I'm missing a sentence in the book, feel free to point it out.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />When I run creatures in a heavily obscured area I'll give a general idea that &quot;there's something out there&quot; and determine a DC to pinpoint the location based on the exact situation, how stealthy the creatures would be if they were trying to be stealthy, are the creatures even trying to be quiet (or are their eerie howls echoing in the fog making it difficult to pinpoint), size of the creature, environmental factors and most importantly what scene am I trying to describe.The rules are there to support our story telling, and some things are left vague so that the DM has the freedom to tell the story they want to tell.&nbsp; I use common sense to decide how some of this works.&nbsp; Close your eyes and have someone walk around you while you're in a parking lot.&nbsp; Up close, you probably have a really good idea where they are but further away?&nbsp; You're guessing even if you do hear them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 6903569, member: 6801845"] Being hidden means that people do not know where you are. That does not mean that if you are not hidden everyone knows exactly where you are any more than saying that since squares are rectangles all rectangles are squares. At least that's the way I run it in my game. If I'm missing a sentence in the book, feel free to point it out. :) When I run creatures in a heavily obscured area I'll give a general idea that "there's something out there" and determine a DC to pinpoint the location based on the exact situation, how stealthy the creatures would be if they were trying to be stealthy, are the creatures even trying to be quiet (or are their eerie howls echoing in the fog making it difficult to pinpoint), size of the creature, environmental factors and most importantly what scene am I trying to describe. The rules are there to support our story telling, and some things are left vague so that the DM has the freedom to tell the story they want to tell. I use common sense to decide how some of this works. Close your eyes and have someone walk around you while you're in a parking lot. Up close, you probably have a really good idea where they are but further away? You're guessing even if you do hear them. [/QUOTE]

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