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<blockquote data-quote="greg kaye" data-source="post: 9048809" data-attributes="member: 7030543">The example of the troll looks like &quot;having the party encounter a troll&quot; within a session which was stated in that example as &quot;not [being] a test of metagaming&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp; iserith, I'd really like for you to have a chance to get this.&nbsp; What you have just observed is Clint_L's <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/do-you-let-pcs-just-break-objects.698261/page-8#post-9048543" target="_blank">response</a>: which lead with the statement, &quot;I don't set out to &quot;test&quot; my player&quot;, he calls the idea of the use of a troll as a test as &quot;an absurd idea&quot;, he states that he &quot;finds it insulting that your response to folks disagreeing with your advice is to question our motives&quot;, and yet you then assert your universal view that &quot;the troll is a test&quot; utterly discounting everything that had just been claimed.&nbsp; If this is your level of trust here, I can only fear for the other members of your d&amp;d groups. At least your pulling back from &quot;is&quot; to &quot;might be&quot; is something.&nbsp; Metagaming, as a stated topic, only came into this thread from its sixth page.Many groups have no principle on the metagaming matter.Please consider, there's always the possibility for gaming groups to also grow directly both in mutual trust and mutual understanding without a need for rigid codes of conduct.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="greg kaye, post: 9048809, member: 7030543"] The example of the troll looks like "having the party encounter a troll" within a session which was stated in that example as "not [being] a test of metagaming". iserith, I'd really like for you to have a chance to get this. What you have just observed is Clint_L's [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/do-you-let-pcs-just-break-objects.698261/page-8#post-9048543']response[/URL]: which lead with the statement, "I don't set out to "test" my player", he calls the idea of the use of a troll as a test as "an absurd idea", he states that he "find[I]s[/I] it insulting that your response to folks disagreeing with your advice is to question our motives", and yet you then assert your universal view that "the troll [I]is[/I] a test" utterly discounting everything that had just been claimed. If this is your level of trust here, I can only fear for the other members of your d&d groups. At least your pulling back from "is" to "might be" is something. Metagaming, as a stated topic, only came into this thread from its sixth page. Many groups have no principle on the metagaming matter. Please consider, there's always the possibility for gaming groups to also grow directly both in mutual trust and mutual understanding without a need for rigid codes of conduct. [/QUOTE]

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