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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9056004" data-attributes="member: 23751">That's just it.&nbsp; There's nothing to measure.&nbsp; Oh they get more skillful, so they parry some &quot;hits&quot; and take hit point damage rather than being run through, but they can't possibly measure that skill as hit points.&nbsp; They'd simply measure it as skill.&nbsp; And then the next day when they screw it up badly(skill fails), because everyone makes mistakes, the PC gets luck&nbsp; and the sword takes off a lock of hair doing 15 hit points of &quot;damage.&quot;&nbsp; There's no way that they can realize that hit points are there and measure them with any sort of accuracy.Not with any sort of idea of hit points they can't.&nbsp; Especially when instead of dying to those goblins in 18 seconds, they last 24 or maybe 30 seconds. They can know that they are getting more powerful, but that's not going to translate into hit points or any sort of measurement of them.&nbsp; The abstract nature of hit points ensures this.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 9056004, member: 23751"] That's just it. There's nothing to measure. Oh they get more skillful, so they parry some "hits" and take hit point damage rather than being run through, but they can't possibly measure that skill as hit points. They'd simply measure it as skill. And then the next day when they screw it up badly(skill fails), because everyone makes mistakes, the PC gets luck and the sword takes off a lock of hair doing 15 hit points of "damage." There's no way that they can realize that hit points are there and measure them with any sort of accuracy. Not with any sort of idea of hit points they can't. Especially when instead of dying to those goblins in 18 seconds, they last 24 or maybe 30 seconds. They can know that they are getting more powerful, but that's not going to translate into hit points or any sort of measurement of them. The abstract nature of hit points ensures this. [/QUOTE]

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