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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rijeagle" data-source="post: 831996" data-attributes="member: 9835">One thing I've noticed never really mentioned here is how long some of these groups have been together.  If a group has only been together a short period of time, OOC should be allowed.In the case of our group, we've been together for several years and play off of each others actions, usually with little OOC.  In major encounters, i.e. the Grande Finale; the players get together without the DM around prior to beginning the encounter and put a plan together for the first couple rounds, sort of like the NFL coaches scripting their first 15 plays in a game.  The DM plays off of their actions trying to disrupt their 'plan', and allows OOC for adjustments.  Not all of the players know the rules like one or two of us do, so OOC is allowed.  Role-playing and 'insubstantial voices of thinking' can be mingled together.  If the fireball goes off, and a couple of the party members get scorched, so be it as premeasuring exactly from point to point is not allowed, so accidental actions do occur, and sometimes it can be good comic relief.  The DM can quietly plot around the OOC, using it to his advantage against the players, opening up several more options and actions and reactions. In my opinion, OOC can be one of the biggest tools to go against the players, you know what they are doing before they do it and can plan or adjust accordingly.  I myself take turns DMing and playing with another member of our group, and although we have different DMing styles, we both allow OOC, and role-playing is still a huge part of our group! I see both sides of it, and it works to both side's advantage, not just one.  All in all it is a game, and it should be played as a game.  If OOC is not allowed, and a player is getting ridiculed or picked on  for 'stupid character actions', is this a game for him anymore?  Let it be a game, where fun is fun.  We play games to escape the rigidity of the real world, namely work.</blockquote>

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