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<blockquote data-quote="Connorsrpg" data-source="post: 5288128" data-attributes="member: 19265">Wow - I am surprised about the number of people that don't like building characters...which kind of supports an idea I have been talking a bit about lately (see below for this side trek).As a DM I LOVE building characters/monsters. I read the players books a lot and often dream of making PCs. BUT I am certainly not a big fan of power building...and fortunately neither are my players. We still inc a lot of random rolls as part of the creation process....Now I have been having discussions with players and others DMs re our best PC Parties, and most had a common thread/theme, and most had a large DM influence on the characters. My favourite in fact is when I pretty much put a bunch of dwarves together, complete with personalities and views on other PCs and the players loved them. So I am thinking of again doing the chargen for next campaign...and a lot of what I have read hear supports this.I can certainly see a player who who want to create his/her PC no matter what and I would let them...and then try to tie them into group. I just find a group often works best if created as a group - and often that needs the input of the person who is going to run the game. I liked James Wyatts predetermined background cards he mentioned in is Dungeonmastery column. Anyway, next new game I reckon I will hand out a lot of character sheets, already done and have players choose. At least from there they can change things mechanically through the 4e rebuild rule. Going by a lot of posts here, it doesn't seem like such a bad idea for other DMs too.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Connorsrpg, post: 5288128, member: 19265"] Wow - I am surprised about the number of people that don't like building characters...which kind of supports an idea I have been talking a bit about lately (see below for this side trek). As a DM I LOVE building characters/monsters. I read the players books a lot and often dream of making PCs. BUT I am certainly not a big fan of power building...and fortunately neither are my players. We still inc a lot of random rolls as part of the creation process. ...Now I have been having discussions with players and others DMs re our best PC Parties, and most had a common thread/theme, and most had a large DM influence on the characters. My favourite in fact is when I pretty much put a bunch of dwarves together, complete with personalities and views on other PCs and the players loved them. So I am thinking of again doing the chargen for next campaign...and a lot of what I have read hear supports this. I can certainly see a player who who want to create his/her PC no matter what and I would let them...and then try to tie them into group. I just find a group often works best if created as a group - and often that needs the input of the person who is going to run the game. I liked James Wyatts predetermined background cards he mentioned in is Dungeonmastery column. Anyway, next new game I reckon I will hand out a lot of character sheets, already done and have players choose. At least from there they can change things mechanically through the 4e rebuild rule. Going by a lot of posts here, it doesn't seem like such a bad idea for other DMs too. [/QUOTE]

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