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Message: <blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 7172051" data-attributes="member: 92511">I don't miss them, because I still use them in my homebrew.I draw the line at gender splits. There's no need to be sexist in a fantasy game of make believe. Everyone (of a particular species) can be as strong or smart or fast or tough as anyone else.But "racial" [species-al?] differences, imho, are made stronger and the classes races are more prone to/known for fall into place rather automatically. Say, an elf can have a naturally rolled max Int. of 19...but cannot naturally have a Con. higher than 16. Chances of someone playing an elf to gravitate toward an Intelligence based class is pretty high. That a halfling's Dex. or Con. might be innately higher [max 19] than a human is capable, but a small-sized character could not naturally gain a physical Strength above 16 just makes good sense (humans in my world/games: 3-18 in everything is the, again, "natural" range).Additionally, making everything the "natural" limits and restrictions of a character's race gives them something to strive and adventure for (if the player/PC so chooses)...finding the necessary magical hoo-hah or mythic trainer or divine boon or whatever that will raise their attribute score beyond what is normally possible for their race. Become a LEGEND among your people!   I don't enforce minimums to BE races. But I do enforce minimums to be classes!Minimum 9 in the primary attribute to take a class. Secondary abilities come in at a 13 min. Those incredibly rare classes with Tertiary abilities are also 13 with the secondary possibly shifting higher as well. e.g. A PC must have a minimum Intelligence of 9 to be a Mage[wizard] PC.To become a "specialist" magic-user, Illusionist, you need the minimum Intelligence of the mage class (9) AND a minimum Dexterity of 13. To be a Psychic (homebrew class) PC, your Int. must be minimum 9, your Charisma and your Wisdom both must be 13 or higher. Ability scores increase, naturally, over levels up to a point where you reach the natural maximums and then can not (automatically) gain any more points...until I think 15th level or so, I say that your Primary ability scores can exceed racial maximums.A class' defining Ability scores of 15 or higher (in both, if there are two, in all three if there are three!) gets you your XP bonus.</blockquote>

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