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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Igwilly" data-source="post: 7174818" data-attributes="member: 6801225">17 out of 18, or 18 out of 20, still is pretty strong, thinking about it.Anyway, realism is a tricky subject. People have different opinions and different criteria. I would be nice to discuss this without calling people names. Let's keep at that.Edit: I must remember you something: we are already talking about special humans.A woman with 17 Str would defeat nearly anyone I deal with, man or woman. The limit would (supposedly) reflect the difference on the top tier of strength on both sexes. No "mere" mortal even enters the equation.</blockquote>