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<blockquote data-quote="Pauln6" data-source="post: 7183051" data-attributes="member: 6777422">Paraphrasing Spock is also intended to invoke a humorous response.&nbsp;&nbsp; Humour is a difficult concept. I don't really disagree with your perspective but at the same time, I've never been a min-maxer.&nbsp; Even in 1e, I played several fighters and rangers with 13 or14 strength and I played one character,&nbsp; a female elf fighter-thief whose strength was downgraded from 17 to 16.&nbsp; I'm not an advocate in favour but I wouldn't lose any sleep if there were racial and sexual maximums in 5e.&nbsp; There aren't any.The bonuses in 5E don't work like 1e so if anybody wanted to re-introduce them you would be ill advised to set half orc max wisdom at 14.As for other sexual differences, on average straight men are better at map reading than straight women and gay women are better at map reading than gay men.&nbsp; However, the best straight female map reader is just as good as the best straight male map reader.&nbsp; The distinction between a cap and an average is important.&nbsp; The only stat where real world women cannot be as good as men is physical strength. But in a fantasy game, something as simple as being blessed or Cursed by a faerie at birth could change that reality. Yes, I think the notion of a Dwarf with 20 dex is silly but since we have no such dwarves in our campaign,&nbsp; I don't need to think about it.BTW - promoting maxing strength could do more to promote Fighter monoculture that forcing people to look at other more varied options. In my experience,&nbsp; my players don't want to repeat themselves.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pauln6, post: 7183051, member: 6777422"] Paraphrasing Spock is also intended to invoke a humorous response. Humour is a difficult concept. I don't really disagree with your perspective but at the same time, I've never been a min-maxer. Even in 1e, I played several fighters and rangers with 13 or14 strength and I played one character, a female elf fighter-thief whose strength was downgraded from 17 to 16. I'm not an advocate in favour but I wouldn't lose any sleep if there were racial and sexual maximums in 5e. There aren't any. The bonuses in 5E don't work like 1e so if anybody wanted to re-introduce them you would be ill advised to set half orc max wisdom at 14. As for other sexual differences, on average straight men are better at map reading than straight women and gay women are better at map reading than gay men. However, the best straight female map reader is just as good as the best straight male map reader. The distinction between a cap and an average is important. The only stat where real world women cannot be as good as men is physical strength. But in a fantasy game, something as simple as being blessed or Cursed by a faerie at birth could change that reality. Yes, I think the notion of a Dwarf with 20 dex is silly but since we have no such dwarves in our campaign, I don't need to think about it. BTW - promoting maxing strength could do more to promote Fighter monoculture that forcing people to look at other more varied options. In my experience, my players don't want to repeat themselves. [/QUOTE]

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